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The Space Force is officially the sixth U.S. military branch
- SlipperySlope 7y agoSpace Marines? Not Spacers nor Spacepersons.
- leed25d 7y agoUp until now, it has been Army, Coast Guard, Navy, Marines and Air Force. This is nice and symmetrical since there are five sides to the Pentagon and five stars in the highest possible general rank. The addition of another branch breaks this symmetry, though. So, what to do? I propose that the Marines be subsumed by the Department of the Navy since they are naturally part of that branch. The symmetry is thus restored. The branches of the Military, then, will be the Army and it's Four Bitches as it has been and as it always should be.
- gumby 7y agoHow about removing the coast guard from the military hierarchy and restoring its status as a civilian service?
- tusk5 7y agoHow about removing military operational assets from N.America and relocating them in Antarctica the seventh continent?
- votepaunchy 7y agoCoast Guard has never been DoD. > In 2002 it was placed under the DHS. During time of war it may be transferred to the Department of the Navy, under the Department of Defense. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_Un...
- 5555624 7y agoThe Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security. Before that it was part of the Department of Transportation and before that, the Commerce Department. (It was originally established to collect custom duties.) It's only part of the "military hierarchy" in times of war, such as World War I and World Way II, when it falls under the Navy.
- gumby 7y agoIt should be back in Commerce (and abandoning the "homeland" security experiment would be good too).
- austincheney 7y agoWell... there are 8 uniformed military services. The Coast Guard also falls under the DHS and formally the Department of Transportation not Defense and the Marines are a department of the US Navy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_Un...
- tusk5 7y agoAll that’s needed to be said is that they fall under the Department of Defense.
- jngreenlee 7y agoThat Pentagon though...can't function follow form?
- kderbyma 7y ago5 walls for terrestrial --- the roof can be the space force.
- trianglem 7y agoDon’t touch the Marines.
- jngreenlee 7y agoYes a Department of the Navy, but it's by far the "Men's Department". (Said in an old school way that's not really appropriate these days)
- masonic 7y agoComputing pioneer Grace Hopper was an Admiral in the US Navy.
- tusk5 7y agoRangers are Marines without the attitude. Change my mind?
- jngreenlee 7y agoMarines are an entire service with equal capability averages to the Army's best
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- tusk5 7y agoWith the addition of space force the five fingered fist analogy is out of place. It’s more effective to beat the enemy before you even hit the battle field. Psychological war fare is evident across cultures, both human and animal display intimidation patterns.
- czbond 7y agoAs a non-military background person - don't these trivial "tribe comparisons" equate in sillyness to the "my sports team is better than your sports team" comparisons? Each branch has specific strengths, personalities, weaknesses, and best of breed jobs to be done.
- yodon 7y agoThe shape of the Pentagon is an artifact of the shape of the property where it was originally going to be built. The location changed mid design but in the interest of speed of design and construction they kept the original shape. Nothing more symbolic to it than that (this is why it's such an irregular pentagon, the shape was whatever the perimeter of the original space looked like).
- pyuser583 7y agoThe pentagon was built during racial segregation, so they had to have separate toilets for whites and blacks. Having twice as many toilets as necessary because of ancient Jim Crow laws is better symbolism.
- nhebb 7y agoI don't think 5 star general is a rank anymore. There is also one 6 star, George Washington, General of the Armies. As far as branches, the Merchant Marines falls under the DoD as well. IIRC, it had the highest casualty rate of any of the branches in WWII.
- bdcravens 7y ago> There is also one 6 star, George Washington, General of the Armies. John J. Pershing was also promoted to that rank, while he was still an active officer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_of_the_Armies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_of_the_Armies
- ipsin 7y agoI've been trying to figure out how much is specifically allocated to this "Space Force". Is it just a notional change, or is new money going to into this, increasing the (already large) U.S. military spending?
- slouch 7y ago$40 million https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-defense/2019/12/17/space-force-funding-reduced-f-35s-boosted-in-spending-bill-783749 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-defense/2019/12... One year ago, the plan was to start it underneath the Air Force, but I haven't found that detail in today's news. https://www.space.com/43161-white-house-space-force-under-air-force.html https://www.space.com/43161-white-house-space-force-under-ai...
- iudqnolq 7y agoOne key quote from their FAQ: > Q: Will any units assigned to Space Force move locations? A: There are currently no plans to relocate existing units. Another answer informs people that they can remain in the Air Force even if their unit is space force. Final interesting aspect: the join space force link points to airforce.com/careers.
- ChuckMcM 7y agoI know it is silly but everytime I hear Space Force I chuckle thinking that Space Cadets are going to be a thing. That aside, it seems like a lot of additional bureaucracy for not a lot of gain. I'm curious how that works out.
- jnwatson 7y agoSpace cadets, space men, or space marines?
- ChuckMcM 7y agoWell when you are attending the Space Academy (which should probably be named after one of the Mercury 7 Astronauts who served in the Air Force {cough, cough, Cooper}) you would be a Space Cadet. Once you graduated you would be a 'Spacer' perhaps. I figure at this point a new service isn't going to call their members '*-men' since they will be an integrated group. They could just call them 'Astronauts' and distinguish them as civilian or military in context. A friend suggested 'Space Person' but that doesn't really roll off the tongue. Then there is 'Space Technician' or 'Person of Space' or 'Space Cast' or 'Spaceist'. Not an easy choice.
- bdamm 7y agoLikely to be a lot more ground operators than spacemen, and astronauts is reserved for those who have actually flown in space.
- sdinsn 7y agoThey are still going to be called Airmen as far as I know