>There are about 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, this number is not disputed. "There were 39,773 gun deaths in 2017, up by more than 1,000 from

>There are about 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, this number is not disputed. "There were 39,773 gun deaths in 2017, up by more than 1,000 from the year before".[1] >Do the math: 0.00915% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. 'Deaths per capita' is the more common unit, isn't it? >22,938 (76%) are by suicide which can't be prevented by gun laws. As I understand it, suicide-by-gun are more 'successful' than suicide-by-other-means. Each failed attempt is a chance to save that person or for the person to save themselves from trying again in the future. How could gun control laws not potentially impact suicide rate? >• 987 (3%) are by law enforcement, thus not relevant to Gun Control discussion. For some narrow definition of gun control, maybe. There has been talk of the increasing militarization of the police over the last decade+, putting more police in schools in response to school shootings, use of force by police officers in situations that seemingly could have easily avoided it. etc. All seems pretty relevant to the discussion. >Still too many? Yes. Staggeringly so[2]. >That's over 30% of all gun crime in just 4 cities. America has gang/drug/poverty problems that fuel violent crimes. No one is denying that. All part of the gun control discussion. >We don't have a gun problem... Can you please help me understand that in relation to [2]? Because it sure looks like we have a gun problem. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#/media/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...