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> Portrait mode on my iPhone 7+ looks okay at a glance, but thinks like hair, wires, and twigs are TERRIBLE on closer inspection. Portrait mode on any phone lo

> Portrait mode on my iPhone 7+ looks okay at a glance, but thinks like hair, wires, and twigs are TERRIBLE on closer inspection. Portrait mode on any phone looks crap. I have not yet seen a picture where fake shallow DOF does not fail and look crap.

geerlingguy 7y ago
If you have solid edges (e.g. hair pulled back or bald), and a fairly smooth background already... it looks acceptable. But it's not a substitute for a really nice lens and sensor combo. Maybe someday. I just wish the DSLR/mirrorless manufactuers would invest more in making their RAW files more intelligent. I don't want 'portrait mode' but I do want to be able to focus stack in one image (with originals preserved), do true adjustable HDR (combining exposures), etc. Sony and Nikon have a couple hint at these capabilities, but the software is not easy to use, and don't get me started on moving pictures between camera bodies and wherever they need to be to do things with them (laptop, iPad, phone).
thamer 7y ago
These improvements to bokeh on the Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL show some pretty good results: https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/12/improvements-to-portrait-mode-on-google.html https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/12/improvements-to-portrait-m...
- unicornporn 7y ago
  Impossible to say because sample[1] is highly compressed and 800 pixels high (including a white border). [1] https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3Sm2XHss0lA/XffZ95s_KjI/AAAAAAAAFA8/roacPF2oMNwb-f-qp-O9wAYY925gT-AQQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Picture1.png https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3Sm2XHss0lA/XffZ95s_KjI/AAAAAAAAF...
  - erkserkserks 7y ago
    Here’s the full size album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwaKemRDusTK5W6SA https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwaKemRDusTK5W6SA
    - unicornporn 7y ago
      Still not full-res and unfortunately the first two samples[1] I opened shows that it's still crap and can't handle fine detail/hair. Many people have hair. [1] https://imgur.com/a/MXCeYaU https://imgur.com/a/MXCeYaU

geerlingguy 7y ago

If you have solid edges (e.g. hair pulled back or bald), and a fairly smooth background already... it looks acceptable. But it's not a substitute for a really nice lens and sensor combo. Maybe someday. I just wish the DSLR/mirrorless manufactuers would invest more in making their RAW files more intelligent. I don't want 'portrait mode' but I do want to be able to focus stack in one image (with originals preserved), do true adjustable HDR (combining exposures), etc. Sony and Nikon have a couple hint at these capabilities, but the software is not easy to use, and don't get me started on moving pictures between camera bodies and wherever they need to be to do things with them (laptop, iPad, phone).

thamer 7y ago

These improvements to bokeh on the Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL show some pretty good results: https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/12/improvements-to-portrait-mode-on-google.html https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/12/improvements-to-portrait-m...

unicornporn 7y ago
Impossible to say because sample[1] is highly compressed and 800 pixels high (including a white border). [1] https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3Sm2XHss0lA/XffZ95s_KjI/AAAAAAAAFA8/roacPF2oMNwb-f-qp-O9wAYY925gT-AQQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Picture1.png https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3Sm2XHss0lA/XffZ95s_KjI/AAAAAAAAF...
- erkserkserks 7y ago
  Here’s the full size album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwaKemRDusTK5W6SA https://photos.app.goo.gl/cwaKemRDusTK5W6SA
  - unicornporn 7y ago
    Still not full-res and unfortunately the first two samples[1] I opened shows that it's still crap and can't handle fine detail/hair. Many people have hair. [1] https://imgur.com/a/MXCeYaU https://imgur.com/a/MXCeYaU