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>I doubt that Apple is going to let the Russian government create the image or use some type of nationwide MDM or Enterprise. >On the other hand, this should b

>I doubt that Apple is going to let the Russian government create the image or use some type of nationwide MDM or Enterprise. >On the other hand, this should be an excellent test of Apple’s security and review process.... In between your two contrasting comments, lies the rub of how much further Apple is willing to capitulate to the demands of nation states ─ who demand nothing less. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/europe/crimea-apple-maps-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/europe/crimea-apple...

scarface74 7y ago
And that’s political not imposing technical changes on their devices.
- johnnycab 7y ago
  I don't follow..pray tell, what are these arbitrary rules?
  - scarface74 7y ago
    What rules? Has Apple ever made a technical change to iOS that made it less secure in response to a government request?
    - johnnycab 7y ago
      The entire premise of the article is to highlight the fact that a government has expressly requested Apple into allowing pre-approved apps to be installed and make use of the ecosystem, on their terms. I ask once again, where is the separation or distinction being made between the political and technical, in this case?
      - scarface74 7y ago
        The difference is that if an app that has to be installed by mandate only has the same rights as any other apps that can be downloaded from the App Store, it doesn’t change the security of the underlying system. If the app is restricted to the same permission and sandboxing model. Heck, Apple could theoretically make the sandbox more restrictive. On top of that, changing the name of a country is a server side change and changes data. That’s no different technically if France mandates that all movies had to have French subtitles.
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        > Heck, Apple could theoretically make the sandbox more restrictive. Only by breaking other apps.
        scarface74 7y ago
        As if Apple hasn’t done that before....
    - lern_too_spel 7y ago
      > Has Apple ever made a technical change to iOS that made it less secure in response to a government request? Yes. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chinese-censorship-bug-caused-iphone-crashes-when-receiving-taiwan-flag-emoji/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chinese-censo...

scarface74 7y ago

And that’s political not imposing technical changes on their devices.

johnnycab 7y ago
I don't follow..pray tell, what are these arbitrary rules?
- scarface74 7y ago
  What rules? Has Apple ever made a technical change to iOS that made it less secure in response to a government request?
  - johnnycab 7y ago
    The entire premise of the article is to highlight the fact that a government has expressly requested Apple into allowing pre-approved apps to be installed and make use of the ecosystem, on their terms. I ask once again, where is the separation or distinction being made between the political and technical, in this case?
    - scarface74 7y ago
      The difference is that if an app that has to be installed by mandate only has the same rights as any other apps that can be downloaded from the App Store, it doesn’t change the security of the underlying system. If the app is restricted to the same permission and sandboxing model. Heck, Apple could theoretically make the sandbox more restrictive. On top of that, changing the name of a country is a server side change and changes data. That’s no different technically if France mandates that all movies had to have French subtitles.
      - lern_too_spel 7y ago
        > Heck, Apple could theoretically make the sandbox more restrictive. Only by breaking other apps.
        scarface74 7y ago
        As if Apple hasn’t done that before....
  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    > Has Apple ever made a technical change to iOS that made it less secure in response to a government request? Yes. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chinese-censorship-bug-caused-iphone-crashes-when-receiving-taiwan-flag-emoji/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chinese-censo...