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> Don't quote CAA without NRC. Why not? They are two very separate things. Infact, CAA can be applied without the NRC. There is no compulsion that CAA has to b

> Don't quote CAA without NRC. Why not? They are two very separate things. Infact, CAA can be applied without the NRC. There is no compulsion that CAA has to be followed by the NRC. > CAA along with NRC is an anti-poor, anti-muslim law. You do know that the current government has done the most out of the past governments for the poor and muslims, right? The Ayushman Bharat scheme has been successfully providing free healthcare to the poorest of the people. The triple talaq law gives muslim women the same civil and divorce laws that the women of other religions enjoy in India for decades. Interestingly, the political parties that are right now going on about minority rights where the one opposing the triple talaq act in parliament. Make what you will of that

ignoramous 7y ago
> You do know that the current government has done the most out of the past governments for the poor and muslims, right? You mean to say 60yrs of governance that came before did less than what the current government has done in 6yrs? That's quite a claim and the onus of its proof, I'm afraid, is rightly on your shoulders. And no, just a single example each of Ayushman Bharat and Triple Talak doesn't count. I demand more: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You'd probably have to write a book (or rewrite books). > There is no compulsion that CAA has to be followed by the NRC. That's not what the ruling party has said. The Home Minister is on-record that NRC would follow CAA and promised to implement it by 2024 [0] to drive-out illegal immigrants, for some convenient definition of an illegal immigrant as defined by the CAA, which is just limited to the Muslims. Make what you will of that. [0] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/nrc-process-to-be-carried-out-in-entire-country-says-amit-shah-in-rajya-sabha/article30027083.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/nrc-process-to-be-car...
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nit_ 7y ago
Current govt caused the recession. The damage demonetisation did (especially to the poor) is painfully obvious. No significant upside. The reduction in economic activity was so pronounced that satellite images could pick up on it. Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime likes to use them as a distraction. They're also responsible for the longest and the most number of internet shutdowns in the history of any democracy (It's still going on). Horrible civil rights record. Minorities are definitely not better off. Statements like that are just propaganda.
- sbmthakur 7y ago
  > Current govt caused the recession. The damage demonetisation did (especially to the poor) is painfully obvious. No significant upside. The reduction in economic activity was so pronounced that satellite images could pick up on it. Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime like to use them as a distraction. Could you share any references for this?
  - nit_ 7y ago
    This planet money episode explains it pretty well. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764433918/episode-770-when-indias-cash-disappeared https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764433918/episode-770-when-in... NBER report: https://scholar.harvard.edu/gopinath/publications/cash-and-economy-evidence-indias-demonetization https://scholar.harvard.edu/gopinath/publications/cash-and-e...
    - sbmthakur 7y ago
      Thank you for sharing.
- vijaysagar 7y ago
  Agree with the part about damage caused by demonetization. >>Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime likes to use them as a distraction. This, I disagree with. Do you have references? >> Minorities are definitely not better off. Statements like that are just propaganda. Which minorities? Citation needed.
  - nit_ 7y ago
    https://www.news18.com/news/business/indias-gdp-growth-hits-3-year-low-of-5-7-as-gst-demonetisation-take-a-toll-1506177.html https://www.news18.com/news/business/indias-gdp-growth-hits-... This was a few months ago. India's annual growth rate is still higher than Pakistan's. https://www.reuters.com/article/india-economy-gdp/update-2-indias-gdp-growth-hits-6-year-low-more-stimulus-expected-idUSL3N25Q3OB https://www.reuters.com/article/india-economy-gdp/update-2-i... All minorities: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/world/asia/india-muslims-citizenship.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/world/asia/india-muslims-...
sbmthakur 7y ago
Another important thing to note about NRC is that it hasn't been tabled yet. It's not clear if the parameters like documents required and the cut-off date will be the same for pan-India NRC. While NRC is clearly present in BJP's manifesto, there's no clear timeline available for it[1]. The one conducted in Assam took almost six years to prepare and a lot of money (which the Government may not have). 1. https://theprint.in/india/govt-has-no-plan-in-place-for-nationwide-nrc-says-union-minister-g-kishan-reddy/338051/ https://theprint.in/india/govt-has-no-plan-in-place-for-nati...

ignoramous 7y ago

> You do know that the current government has done the most out of the past governments for the poor and muslims, right? You mean to say 60yrs of governance that came before did less than what the current government has done in 6yrs? That's quite a claim and the onus of its proof, I'm afraid, is rightly on your shoulders. And no, just a single example each of Ayushman Bharat and Triple Talak doesn't count. I demand more: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You'd probably have to write a book (or rewrite books). > There is no compulsion that CAA has to be followed by the NRC. That's not what the ruling party has said. The Home Minister is on-record that NRC would follow CAA and promised to implement it by 2024 [0] to drive-out illegal immigrants, for some convenient definition of an illegal immigrant as defined by the CAA, which is just limited to the Muslims. Make what you will of that. [0] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/nrc-process-to-be-carried-out-in-entire-country-says-amit-shah-in-rajya-sabha/article30027083.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/nrc-process-to-be-car...

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nit_ 7y ago

Current govt caused the recession. The damage demonetisation did (especially to the poor) is painfully obvious. No significant upside. The reduction in economic activity was so pronounced that satellite images could pick up on it. Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime likes to use them as a distraction. They're also responsible for the longest and the most number of internet shutdowns in the history of any democracy (It's still going on). Horrible civil rights record. Minorities are definitely not better off. Statements like that are just propaganda.

sbmthakur 7y ago
> Current govt caused the recession. The damage demonetisation did (especially to the poor) is painfully obvious. No significant upside. The reduction in economic activity was so pronounced that satellite images could pick up on it. Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime like to use them as a distraction. Could you share any references for this?
- nit_ 7y ago
  This planet money episode explains it pretty well. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764433918/episode-770-when-indias-cash-disappeared https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764433918/episode-770-when-in... NBER report: https://scholar.harvard.edu/gopinath/publications/cash-and-economy-evidence-indias-demonetization https://scholar.harvard.edu/gopinath/publications/cash-and-e...
  - sbmthakur 7y ago
    Thank you for sharing.
vijaysagar 7y ago
Agree with the part about damage caused by demonetization. >>Growth rate tanked. It's now lower than that of Pakistan which is ironic considering how much the current regime likes to use them as a distraction. This, I disagree with. Do you have references? >> Minorities are definitely not better off. Statements like that are just propaganda. Which minorities? Citation needed.
- nit_ 7y ago
  https://www.news18.com/news/business/indias-gdp-growth-hits-3-year-low-of-5-7-as-gst-demonetisation-take-a-toll-1506177.html https://www.news18.com/news/business/indias-gdp-growth-hits-... This was a few months ago. India's annual growth rate is still higher than Pakistan's. https://www.reuters.com/article/india-economy-gdp/update-2-indias-gdp-growth-hits-6-year-low-more-stimulus-expected-idUSL3N25Q3OB https://www.reuters.com/article/india-economy-gdp/update-2-i... All minorities: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/world/asia/india-muslims-citizenship.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/world/asia/india-muslims-...

sbmthakur 7y ago

Another important thing to note about NRC is that it hasn't been tabled yet. It's not clear if the parameters like documents required and the cut-off date will be the same for pan-India NRC. While NRC is clearly present in BJP's manifesto, there's no clear timeline available for it[1]. The one conducted in Assam took almost six years to prepare and a lot of money (which the Government may not have). 1. https://theprint.in/india/govt-has-no-plan-in-place-for-nationwide-nrc-says-union-minister-g-kishan-reddy/338051/ https://theprint.in/india/govt-has-no-plan-in-place-for-nati...