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The food choice is US-centric as already pointed out, I want to add that doesn't impact only the macros, but also the prices and availability. For example foods

The food choice is US-centric as already pointed out, I want to add that doesn't impact only the macros, but also the prices and availability. For example foods like Buckwheat and Peanut Butter are hard to find in Italy (at least in my region), and when you find them are very expensive (example Buckwheat is around 2£/KG in the UK and around 15€/KG in Italy). Regarding the macros, the change of proteins, based on the nation is impressive. Example: Best cottage cheese I can find in Italy: 7% Carbs, 0% Fats, 93% Proteins https://www.myfitnesspal.com/it/food/calories/naturella-fiocchi-di-latte-light-472127919 https://www.myfitnesspal.com/it/food/calories/naturella-fioc... Best cottage cheese I can find in UK: 11% Carbs, 26% Fats, 63% Proteins https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/light-cottage-cheese-200g-502275010 https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/light-cottage-che... Best "cottage cheese" I can find in Lithuania: 11% Carbs, 0% Fatas, 89% Proteins https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/liesa-varske-0-5-62189974 https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/liesa-varske-0-5-... You could add in the receipt the macros of the ingredient we need to use, in this way at the super market I can scan various of them and search the closest one

ShinTakuya 7y ago
This. I was excited for it a year or two ago, but even in Australia which tends to be somewhat similar to the US it was difficult to follow it. I'm sure it varies by state too, it's probably what you find in Californian supermarkets or something. It really needs to separate the dishes by region if it's going to succeed internationally. I'd pay good money for this service if it had the exact cheap ingredients in my local supermarkets.
froh42 7y ago
And being US-centric means a lot of the choices a quite gross and really unappealing for people in other countries. Buttered toast? Peanut butter and honey? Yuck, I'd rather not eat at all.
- mywacaday 7y ago
  I selected keto and it suggested an arugula salad for lunch that had 61 calories, no thanks!
- dmje 7y ago
  You don't like buttered toast?
  - esotericn 7y ago
    I love buttered toast, in the same way that I love candy floss. It's not exactly a 'meal'.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    It's a good meal if one is still in middle school... For most countries it's something you snack with a coffee or tea, not a meal.
    - jakemal 7y ago
      I've never heard of that being considered an entire meal America either.
      - giancarlostoro 7y ago
        I was going to say this. Wow people believe we think buttered toast is a meal. Isnt the goal to eat less with this site? I would say buttered toast pushed some hunger buttons.
      - russh 7y ago
        It depends on the proximity of large unplanned cash outlays to payday.
    - EpicEng 7y ago
      It's not a meal anywhere, not sure where you got that idea.
      - coldtea 7y ago
        From the "Automatic MEAL planner" suggesting it as a meal...
- rriepe 7y ago
  I had the same reaction reading this post.
- astura 7y ago
  I've never heard of peanut butter and honey, must be a regional thing.
  - mumblemumble 7y ago
    I'm pretty sure it's a Great Plains thing. I grew up on it, but most everyone I know has never heard of it. I will say that it's only delicious if you use typical American heavily salted peanut butter. Canadians should not try this with anything but Kraft unless they are feeling dangerously happy and are in need of a quick day-ruiner.
    - pacerwpg 7y ago
      It's perfectly fine with natural peanut butter too - you can always add salt onto the peanut butter.
  - bovermyer 7y ago
    You're missing out. Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are amazing. For context, I grew up in a wide mix of central and eastern USA.
    - astura 7y ago
      No thanks, I very much don't like peanut butter on sandwiches/bread/toast. The thought of peanut butter on bread makes me wanna gag, it doesn't taste good and the texture is unbearable.
      - knicholes 7y ago
        How else would you use peanut butter? Cookies? Chocolates?
        mumblemumble 7y ago
        Everyone knows it's best eaten with a spoon.
- throwaway_tech 7y ago
  >Yuck, I'd rather not eat at all. Wow...that reads like the stereotypical Western child when asked to eat healthy food. However, I don't think I have ever heard even a child say yuck to buttered toast or a peanut butter and honey sandwich. Once upon a time I might eat either of those things before running half or full marathons...no longer as I avoid bread/carbs/sugar and prefer running in ketosis. I'll say this though, if your fueled by glucose those are both very light meals that will give you great amounts of energy without major insulin spikes (not much in the way of micro nutrients though).
  - silexia 7y ago
    I was recently diagnosed with osteoarthritis of the hip at the age of 35. This finally shocked me into action. For a long time, I have been very active playing sports everyday and exercising but always had a little extra fat on me and was a little slower than I could be. I never had the motivation to change my diet until now. I went out and read everything I could on osteoarthritis and as it's a degenerative disease you're only hope is to make it last longer at this point and maybe a cure will come. The proven ways to make it last longer are to lose weight and to do exercise. I spent about 160 hours researching what to do and discover the diet inflammatory index (DII). This is based on every dietary study related to inflammation since 1950 till 2017. I designed a diet specifically around that. I am combining it with intermittent fasting and prolonged fasting that I found through my research is also very powerful in causing autophagy which can help with diseases like osteoarthritis. I actually have found that since starting this diet my focus and brain power have gone through the roof. I have tons more energy in my hip feels a hundred times better. I am excited to continue this journey. I'd highly recommend anyone interested to look at this as well. I'm not one of those people that sells any crap related to this, this is just the research I have done into scientific studies around nutrition and its impact on disease.
- jriot 7y ago
  Are you a commie, not liking buttered toast, what world am I living in here?
- EpicEng 7y ago
  You have that much disdain for... butter on toast? Where are you from exactly? Mars?
- tarsinge 7y ago
  In France the « Jambon beurre » sandwich is (was?) one of the most eated meal and is baguette + butter + ham. Also personally I’m fit and I eat a lot of buttered bread with added cheese everyday. I have the chance to have artisan bread and raw milk cheese available everywhere though. Honey everyday too (in tea and in yogurts).
alberto_ol 7y ago
Where I live (Trieste) most supermarkets have Peanut Butter. You can find it also in "ethnic" shops or in organic food shops (in italiano negozi di prodotti biologici).
- maury91 7y ago
  I used "at least in my region" for this specific reason, I was expecting that outside my region (Sardinia) is easier to find. You can find it in ethnic shops, however, because there's a small number of them the price is inflated by a good degree. And the one that I think is the good peanut butter (according to my taste), is impossible to find and I need to have it shipped from UK https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/263926798 https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/263926798
shantly 7y ago
> Buckwheat That one's not common in food in the US, either. A lot more "odd" ingredients are widely available now than used to be in the US, so you can find it without too much trouble, but it's still not something most are familiar with. I cook a fair bit and I've only used it because I decided to try making Breton buckwheat crêpes, and I'm sure I could find other ways to use it but I'd have to go out of my way to do so. Wouldn't be surprised if it's present in a couple regional US cuisines in a minor way (cajun?) but it's not something most people eat regularly, if at all.
- maury91 7y ago
  If you want to try another recipe with buckwheat, you can cook it like rice. You rinse the buckwheat, and then you boil it. At the end drain it, and add a sauce (usually butter) and it's ready to eat. I used to eat it in that way (outside Italy), and it's normally a side of a main dish, for example roasted chicken and buckwheat (instead of potatoes).
  - dhimes 7y ago
    Is it sticky? I'm trying to create a good veggie-burger, and need something that can form a patty when I mix in the beans etc.
    - manifestsilence 7y ago
      Mashed it might stick together. The whole grains are way less sticky on the outside than rice.
    - maury91 7y ago
      I'm sorry, it never happen to me that got sticky, even when I cook it without rinsing it and without adding butter. If you need to make them vegetarian and not vegan, I recommend eggs that are a good binder. If you need to go vegan you can try with a starch binder, for example you can use cornflour mixed with water (I find easy to make a cornflour binder, by cooking some water and adding cornflour slowly with a strainer and mixing well, then cooking it until the consistency is dense enough) when it gets cold the cornflour mix becomes a gelatine ball. You can try also using mashed potatoes, but you need to be careful with water.
tarsinge 7y ago
I may be missing something but I don’t see the 93% proteins figure, it’s more like 13g per 100g so 13%. Also it would be the same or higher than whey protein. I would have loved that.
- maury91 7y ago
  93% refers to the amount of calories from proteins for 100g compared to the amount of calories for 100g. If you open the myfitnesspal link, you will see that it shows as figure 93%, this helps eating foods that helps reach your macros.
  - tarsinge 7y ago
    Oh I see, thanks. Personally I find easier to use the total amount of a macro in a day: I aim for 100g protein, know that by restricting carbs I will be under 100g carbs, and add fat if I’m too low in total calorie at the end of the day (when I do a lot of physical activity or when bulking with strength training).

ShinTakuya 7y ago

This. I was excited for it a year or two ago, but even in Australia which tends to be somewhat similar to the US it was difficult to follow it. I'm sure it varies by state too, it's probably what you find in Californian supermarkets or something. It really needs to separate the dishes by region if it's going to succeed internationally. I'd pay good money for this service if it had the exact cheap ingredients in my local supermarkets.

froh42 7y ago

And being US-centric means a lot of the choices a quite gross and really unappealing for people in other countries. Buttered toast? Peanut butter and honey? Yuck, I'd rather not eat at all.

mywacaday 7y ago
I selected keto and it suggested an arugula salad for lunch that had 61 calories, no thanks!
dmje 7y ago
You don't like buttered toast?
- esotericn 7y ago
  I love buttered toast, in the same way that I love candy floss. It's not exactly a 'meal'.
- coldtea 7y ago
  It's a good meal if one is still in middle school... For most countries it's something you snack with a coffee or tea, not a meal.
  - jakemal 7y ago
    I've never heard of that being considered an entire meal America either.
    - giancarlostoro 7y ago
      I was going to say this. Wow people believe we think buttered toast is a meal. Isnt the goal to eat less with this site? I would say buttered toast pushed some hunger buttons.
    - russh 7y ago
      It depends on the proximity of large unplanned cash outlays to payday.
  - EpicEng 7y ago
    It's not a meal anywhere, not sure where you got that idea.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      From the "Automatic MEAL planner" suggesting it as a meal...
rriepe 7y ago
I had the same reaction reading this post.
astura 7y ago
I've never heard of peanut butter and honey, must be a regional thing.
- mumblemumble 7y ago
  I'm pretty sure it's a Great Plains thing. I grew up on it, but most everyone I know has never heard of it. I will say that it's only delicious if you use typical American heavily salted peanut butter. Canadians should not try this with anything but Kraft unless they are feeling dangerously happy and are in need of a quick day-ruiner.
  - pacerwpg 7y ago
    It's perfectly fine with natural peanut butter too - you can always add salt onto the peanut butter.
- bovermyer 7y ago
  You're missing out. Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are amazing. For context, I grew up in a wide mix of central and eastern USA.
  - astura 7y ago
    No thanks, I very much don't like peanut butter on sandwiches/bread/toast. The thought of peanut butter on bread makes me wanna gag, it doesn't taste good and the texture is unbearable.
    - knicholes 7y ago
      How else would you use peanut butter? Cookies? Chocolates?
      - mumblemumble 7y ago
        Everyone knows it's best eaten with a spoon.
throwaway_tech 7y ago
>Yuck, I'd rather not eat at all. Wow...that reads like the stereotypical Western child when asked to eat healthy food. However, I don't think I have ever heard even a child say yuck to buttered toast or a peanut butter and honey sandwich. Once upon a time I might eat either of those things before running half or full marathons...no longer as I avoid bread/carbs/sugar and prefer running in ketosis. I'll say this though, if your fueled by glucose those are both very light meals that will give you great amounts of energy without major insulin spikes (not much in the way of micro nutrients though).
- silexia 7y ago
  I was recently diagnosed with osteoarthritis of the hip at the age of 35. This finally shocked me into action. For a long time, I have been very active playing sports everyday and exercising but always had a little extra fat on me and was a little slower than I could be. I never had the motivation to change my diet until now. I went out and read everything I could on osteoarthritis and as it's a degenerative disease you're only hope is to make it last longer at this point and maybe a cure will come. The proven ways to make it last longer are to lose weight and to do exercise. I spent about 160 hours researching what to do and discover the diet inflammatory index (DII). This is based on every dietary study related to inflammation since 1950 till 2017. I designed a diet specifically around that. I am combining it with intermittent fasting and prolonged fasting that I found through my research is also very powerful in causing autophagy which can help with diseases like osteoarthritis. I actually have found that since starting this diet my focus and brain power have gone through the roof. I have tons more energy in my hip feels a hundred times better. I am excited to continue this journey. I'd highly recommend anyone interested to look at this as well. I'm not one of those people that sells any crap related to this, this is just the research I have done into scientific studies around nutrition and its impact on disease.
jriot 7y ago
Are you a commie, not liking buttered toast, what world am I living in here?
EpicEng 7y ago
You have that much disdain for... butter on toast? Where are you from exactly? Mars?
tarsinge 7y ago
In France the « Jambon beurre » sandwich is (was?) one of the most eated meal and is baguette + butter + ham. Also personally I’m fit and I eat a lot of buttered bread with added cheese everyday. I have the chance to have artisan bread and raw milk cheese available everywhere though. Honey everyday too (in tea and in yogurts).

alberto_ol 7y ago

Where I live (Trieste) most supermarkets have Peanut Butter. You can find it also in "ethnic" shops or in organic food shops (in italiano negozi di prodotti biologici).

maury91 7y ago
I used "at least in my region" for this specific reason, I was expecting that outside my region (Sardinia) is easier to find. You can find it in ethnic shops, however, because there's a small number of them the price is inflated by a good degree. And the one that I think is the good peanut butter (according to my taste), is impossible to find and I need to have it shipped from UK https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/263926798 https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/263926798

shantly 7y ago

> Buckwheat That one's not common in food in the US, either. A lot more "odd" ingredients are widely available now than used to be in the US, so you can find it without too much trouble, but it's still not something most are familiar with. I cook a fair bit and I've only used it because I decided to try making Breton buckwheat crêpes, and I'm sure I could find other ways to use it but I'd have to go out of my way to do so. Wouldn't be surprised if it's present in a couple regional US cuisines in a minor way (cajun?) but it's not something most people eat regularly, if at all.

maury91 7y ago
If you want to try another recipe with buckwheat, you can cook it like rice. You rinse the buckwheat, and then you boil it. At the end drain it, and add a sauce (usually butter) and it's ready to eat. I used to eat it in that way (outside Italy), and it's normally a side of a main dish, for example roasted chicken and buckwheat (instead of potatoes).
- dhimes 7y ago
  Is it sticky? I'm trying to create a good veggie-burger, and need something that can form a patty when I mix in the beans etc.
  - manifestsilence 7y ago
    Mashed it might stick together. The whole grains are way less sticky on the outside than rice.
  - maury91 7y ago
    I'm sorry, it never happen to me that got sticky, even when I cook it without rinsing it and without adding butter. If you need to make them vegetarian and not vegan, I recommend eggs that are a good binder. If you need to go vegan you can try with a starch binder, for example you can use cornflour mixed with water (I find easy to make a cornflour binder, by cooking some water and adding cornflour slowly with a strainer and mixing well, then cooking it until the consistency is dense enough) when it gets cold the cornflour mix becomes a gelatine ball. You can try also using mashed potatoes, but you need to be careful with water.

tarsinge 7y ago

I may be missing something but I don’t see the 93% proteins figure, it’s more like 13g per 100g so 13%. Also it would be the same or higher than whey protein. I would have loved that.

maury91 7y ago
93% refers to the amount of calories from proteins for 100g compared to the amount of calories for 100g. If you open the myfitnesspal link, you will see that it shows as figure 93%, this helps eating foods that helps reach your macros.
- tarsinge 7y ago
  Oh I see, thanks. Personally I find easier to use the total amount of a macro in a day: I aim for 100g protein, know that by restricting carbs I will be under 100g carbs, and add fat if I’m too low in total calorie at the end of the day (when I do a lot of physical activity or when bulking with strength training).