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The German system might have problems but also comes with upsides, e.g. mandatory 24 hour ride coverage in the more rural areas as a condition of cab licenses,

The German system might have problems but also comes with upsides, e.g. mandatory 24 hour ride coverage in the more rural areas as a condition of cab licenses, training, ... I mean, is there anything stopping Uber from going for cab licenses and giving their employees the protection our laws dictate? That might not fit their business model and the regular cab model might be bad but I'm not convinced that the Uber/pseudo ride share alternative is all roses either. It certainly can't be the solution to just replace badly behaving incumbents with some cheap startup that doesn't even employ their drivers.

kmlx 7y ago
> giving their employees the protection our laws dictate? > some cheap startup that doesn't even employ their drivers. the world has changed decades ago. i think it's time for your laws to change as well. overall your comment reminds me of this: “When behavior runs into poor design, behavior always, and I mean always, wins.” —@asymco
- mschuster91 7y ago
  You want riots like in France? Because that tends to happen when you screw over workers rights for more profits for the elites. It's gonna be real fun for Uber and the other "gig economy" exploiters if Warren or Sanders win.
- tastroder 7y ago
  > the world has changed decades ago. i think it's time for your laws to change as well. The European approaches to worker protection aren't a thing the world has just moved on from because they want a more convenient and slightly cheaper cab service. My comment was meant to point out that these regulations don't just mean to stifle some radical new business model. I for one can live without yet another industry based on worker exploitation, we've got enough of those already. Or maybe, to encourage discussion rather than dismissing that view: what upside would the German society have from relaxing that legislation? That sector could use some deregulation, sure, but I don't see the point of replacing it with a player that wants none.
- pgeorgi 7y ago
  > i think it's time for your laws to change as well. Maybe we could leave that to German society and politics instead of letting some money-drunken American jackass[0] run the show? Which is exactly what the court is doing, so: mission accomplished. [0] I mean Kalanick is gone, but that lack of ethics still seems to be very deeply embedded within that organization.
- njb311 7y ago
  > i think it's time for your laws to change as well. So if I don't agree with the laws in your country then you should change them too? overall your comment reminds me of this: “The problem with the race to the bottom is that you might win.” — Seth Godin

kmlx 7y ago

> giving their employees the protection our laws dictate? > some cheap startup that doesn't even employ their drivers. the world has changed decades ago. i think it's time for your laws to change as well. overall your comment reminds me of this: “When behavior runs into poor design, behavior always, and I mean always, wins.” —@asymco

mschuster91 7y ago
You want riots like in France? Because that tends to happen when you screw over workers rights for more profits for the elites. It's gonna be real fun for Uber and the other "gig economy" exploiters if Warren or Sanders win.
tastroder 7y ago
> the world has changed decades ago. i think it's time for your laws to change as well. The European approaches to worker protection aren't a thing the world has just moved on from because they want a more convenient and slightly cheaper cab service. My comment was meant to point out that these regulations don't just mean to stifle some radical new business model. I for one can live without yet another industry based on worker exploitation, we've got enough of those already. Or maybe, to encourage discussion rather than dismissing that view: what upside would the German society have from relaxing that legislation? That sector could use some deregulation, sure, but I don't see the point of replacing it with a player that wants none.
pgeorgi 7y ago
> i think it's time for your laws to change as well. Maybe we could leave that to German society and politics instead of letting some money-drunken American jackass[0] run the show? Which is exactly what the court is doing, so: mission accomplished. [0] I mean Kalanick is gone, but that lack of ethics still seems to be very deeply embedded within that organization.
njb311 7y ago
> i think it's time for your laws to change as well. So if I don't agree with the laws in your country then you should change them too? overall your comment reminds me of this: “The problem with the race to the bottom is that you might win.” — Seth Godin