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I have a Chromatone keyboard, with its 6-row Janko layout. The top row is really part of a chromatic run section at the top (you can just run your finger along
by mkl 7y ago
I have a Chromatone keyboard, with its 6-row Janko layout. The top row is really part of a chromatic run section at the top (you can just run your finger along and play all the notes). Looks like they're still giving them away for shipping only: https://www.chromatone.jp/online-shop/en.html https://www.chromatone.jp/online-shop/en.html
I wrote a bit about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19668900 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19668900
Quoting myself (no real updates since then - too busy with work):
It looks like it has an enormous number of keys, but they are linked together, with each horizontal position being a note, and 3-4 "buttons" on the same physical lever for each note. This makes fingerings very flexible. The closer spacing of the key layout means you can reach bigger chords more easily - I can comfortably play a 10th, for example. The layout is isomorphic, so transposing is as simple as shifting your hands along.
I have played (standard) piano for over 30 years, and this was immediately intuitive for anything melodic. I am far from an expert yet, but the biggest difficulty has been the lack of colours on the keys, which makes it hard to jump big intervals, or play the same note in different octaves in both hands. The lack of colours is because keys don't play a fixed note; the whole keyboard can be transposed by pressing a couple of buttons. Also, because the layout is isomorphic and they were trying to get away from the traditional note system. I am planning to try different colourings with masking tape or post-its, but I wish it had an RGB led for each key (not sure I can justify the effort of rigging that up).
The layout itself is great, and is the reason to buy this. Everything else is less great, and really shows its age (I have the newer model, the CT-312, which dates from something like 2007). The biggest hardware deficiency is the lack of a sustain pedal input, but I expect I can find a way around that with MIDI out or by rigging something up with the (toggle!) sustain button on the control panel. The sound synthesis is also pretty poor, but again, MIDI out.
The best thing about the Chromatone in comparison to all these other alternative keyboards, is that it's (1) Available, and (2) Free! They're clearing out old stock or something, so all I paid was shipping from Japan.
- jacquesm 7y ago> but I wish it had an RGB led for each key You only need an LED per column and you could simply put two strips on there, one along the top and another along the bottom. I also have a Chromatone, it got held up in customs for over 6 months but it finally arrived a few weeks ago but I have not yet had the time to put significant hours into learning to play it. But even the little bit that I did do was very intuitive.
- ScottFree 7y agoWould you suggest the Chromatone for a tone-deaf drummer who's never touched a piano in his life? Or is it better to learn the traditional piano first?
- mkl 7y agoI think in your case it would be better to learn a traditional keyboard layout. There's way more training material and the fingering is a simpler (fewer choices). It also lets you just go to some other place and play the piano there (I think this is the main reason Janko didn't catch on). I think Janko might be a good first keyboard layout for a guitarist or other stringed instrument player.