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Wasn't facebook pestering me for my phone number for "extra security" a while back? Seems like the exact opposite.

by collyw 7y ago

drywater 7y ago
Last time I tried Twitter will disable your account if you don’t provide a phone.
- Nextgrid 7y ago
  You can open a support ticket and they'll restore it and include a BS apology about how your account was supposedly a false-positive of their anti-abuse system (where in reality it's just a way to harvest phone numbers out of easily coercible victims). However, the main question is: why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform especially when it's explicitly working against you like in this case? Just move on and give them the finger.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform Because a bunch of people you know are on the toxic platform.
    - saiya-jin 7y ago
      Doesn't make it a less toxic place in any meaning. If somebody is such a diva they have an active presence on Twitter, there are almost always other means to connect.
    - nudq 7y ago
      A good idea if you want your personal relationships poisoned.
      - workthrowaway 7y ago
        > A good idea if you want your personal relationships poisoned. not how it works for me! i have friends on fb that i haven't talked to or seen since high school. i don't use fb proper but it's good to know that it remembers everyone so i don't have to. i guess it goes the other around as well.
        bilekas 7y ago
        > it's good to know that it remembers everyone so i don't have to There is something wrong with this for me.. If you don't remember people, are they really worth kepeing around ? It is a great way to reach someone you want to get in touch with after a really long time, but that scenario is far more rare than people claim when they speak of the 'magic of facebook'.
        hombre_fatal 7y ago
        > If you don't remember people, are they really worth kepeing around How in the world are you ever going to know if you never contact them again?
        bilekas 7y ago
        :) I guess I just keep a select group of friends that I want to be with. What I don't know wont kill me and all that, but fair enough. Each to their own !
        huyqut 7y ago
        It's not that rare. I met some friends in middle school about 10 years ago. When I move to the US, FB is the place to connect them again because we keep FB connections. A lit of people around is also in the same situation. Like the above comment, you never know.
  - collyw 7y ago
    When the Guardian closes its own comments section (usually when they are heavily pushing opinion without evidence) you can usually comment on Twitter.
  - doublerabbit 7y ago
    > why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform Did you ask this back in 2008? As someone who was ridiculed, outcasted and made fun at uni for not using social media because I didn’t want to submit my data online, it’s finally nice to find people are actually starting to realise this; just twelve years too late.
    - Nextgrid 7y ago
      I agree, it’s a choice where you feel the consequences pretty much every day when it comes to Facebook or Instagram. But Twitter? Pretty much nobody uses it for day-to-day communication, so you can opt-out with no consequences.
- deleted 7y ago
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- tilolebo 7y ago
  I think it has changed recently: https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/22/20977436/twitter-2fa-phone-number-authentication-app-security-key https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/22/20977436/twitter-2fa-pho... Still, it's a shame it took them so long to implement a proper 2FA.
  - lazyjones 7y ago
    Can't confirm. Registered a new account a few days ago (deleted my old one years ago). Next time I tried to log in, they asked me for a phone number. I declined and didn't log in. Now the account is gone.
dsypa 7y ago
This is like the Cambridge Analytica scandal: people allowed 3rd party apps to access their data and then they complain when, eh, they had their data. Solution? Facebook closed the API. And now people complain that Facebook is a silo and they hold onto your data and they don't allow 3rd party apps to access it.
- altcognito 7y ago
  Facebook could have restricted 3rd party access to only those applications that had given permission, or provided a way to manually export it so users would become familiar with a process they should probably know anyway.
  - aledalgrande 7y ago
    Or they could have a sound app review process like Apple.
- hurricanetc 7y ago
  That’s an oversimplification. The Facebook API had a gaping hole in it that allowed third party apps to access data on the authorized user AND friends. Facebook discovers these kind of issues on a regular basis. The idea that they’ve clamped down on this type of thing is the joke of 2019.
cmdshiftf4 7y ago
>Seems like the exact opposite. Worse still, they used the numbers provided for ad targeting. https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your-2fa-phone-number-to-target-you-with-ads/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your...

Wasn't facebook pestering me for my phone number for "extra security" a while back? Seems like the exact opposite.

by collyw 7y ago

Wasn't facebook pestering me for my phone number for "extra security" a while back? Seems like the exact opposite.

drywater 7y ago

Last time I tried Twitter will disable your account if you don’t provide a phone.

Nextgrid 7y ago
You can open a support ticket and they'll restore it and include a BS apology about how your account was supposedly a false-positive of their anti-abuse system (where in reality it's just a way to harvest phone numbers out of easily coercible victims). However, the main question is: why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform especially when it's explicitly working against you like in this case? Just move on and give them the finger.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  > why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform Because a bunch of people you know are on the toxic platform.
  - saiya-jin 7y ago
    Doesn't make it a less toxic place in any meaning. If somebody is such a diva they have an active presence on Twitter, there are almost always other means to connect.
  - nudq 7y ago
    A good idea if you want your personal relationships poisoned.
    - workthrowaway 7y ago
      > A good idea if you want your personal relationships poisoned. not how it works for me! i have friends on fb that i haven't talked to or seen since high school. i don't use fb proper but it's good to know that it remembers everyone so i don't have to. i guess it goes the other around as well.
      - bilekas 7y ago
        > it's good to know that it remembers everyone so i don't have to There is something wrong with this for me.. If you don't remember people, are they really worth kepeing around ? It is a great way to reach someone you want to get in touch with after a really long time, but that scenario is far more rare than people claim when they speak of the 'magic of facebook'.
        hombre_fatal 7y ago
        > If you don't remember people, are they really worth kepeing around How in the world are you ever going to know if you never contact them again?
        bilekas 7y ago
        :) I guess I just keep a select group of friends that I want to be with. What I don't know wont kill me and all that, but fair enough. Each to their own !
        huyqut 7y ago
        It's not that rare. I met some friends in middle school about 10 years ago. When I move to the US, FB is the place to connect them again because we keep FB connections. A lit of people around is also in the same situation. Like the above comment, you never know.
- collyw 7y ago
  When the Guardian closes its own comments section (usually when they are heavily pushing opinion without evidence) you can usually comment on Twitter.
- doublerabbit 7y ago
  > why would you ever give your time to such a toxic platform Did you ask this back in 2008? As someone who was ridiculed, outcasted and made fun at uni for not using social media because I didn’t want to submit my data online, it’s finally nice to find people are actually starting to realise this; just twelve years too late.
  - Nextgrid 7y ago
    I agree, it’s a choice where you feel the consequences pretty much every day when it comes to Facebook or Instagram. But Twitter? Pretty much nobody uses it for day-to-day communication, so you can opt-out with no consequences.
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tilolebo 7y ago
I think it has changed recently: https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/22/20977436/twitter-2fa-phone-number-authentication-app-security-key https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/22/20977436/twitter-2fa-pho... Still, it's a shame it took them so long to implement a proper 2FA.
- lazyjones 7y ago
  Can't confirm. Registered a new account a few days ago (deleted my old one years ago). Next time I tried to log in, they asked me for a phone number. I declined and didn't log in. Now the account is gone.

dsypa 7y ago

This is like the Cambridge Analytica scandal: people allowed 3rd party apps to access their data and then they complain when, eh, they had their data. Solution? Facebook closed the API. And now people complain that Facebook is a silo and they hold onto your data and they don't allow 3rd party apps to access it.

altcognito 7y ago
Facebook could have restricted 3rd party access to only those applications that had given permission, or provided a way to manually export it so users would become familiar with a process they should probably know anyway.
- aledalgrande 7y ago
  Or they could have a sound app review process like Apple.
hurricanetc 7y ago
That’s an oversimplification. The Facebook API had a gaping hole in it that allowed third party apps to access data on the authorized user AND friends. Facebook discovers these kind of issues on a regular basis. The idea that they’ve clamped down on this type of thing is the joke of 2019.

cmdshiftf4 7y ago

>Seems like the exact opposite. Worse still, they used the numbers provided for ad targeting. https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your-2fa-phone-number-to-target-you-with-ads/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your...