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This is just bullshit. The opposition hasn't been able to mobilise a single popular protest against the government in the last 5 years, how could they do this n

This is just bullshit. The opposition hasn't been able to mobilise a single popular protest against the government in the last 5 years, how could they do this now? These are spontaneous protests organised by ordinary people across the whole country. Open your eyes and stop spreading government propaganda.

sbmthakur 7y ago
Violent protests are often organized by politicians. I won't blame Congress because I don't have proof. However, it's not something completely unheard of.
- ignoramous 7y ago
  > Violent protests are often... These aren't violent protests. > ...organized by politicians. In this country, violence has been forte of the political-right and has led to loss of innocent lives, like in 2002 Gujarat. I agree. These protests, however; aren't communal in nature. These are anti-government protests. > I won't blame Congress because I don't have proof Here's your proof: BJP, the ruling party, has been caught red-handed, like there were in 2002, https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullcap https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca... > However, it's not something completely unheard of. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
  - quantummkv 7y ago
    > These aren't violent protests. Setting police stations on fire and lynching policemen is not violence?
    - nit_ 7y ago
      They've broadly been peaceful in nature. It's immoral to paint the entire struggle as being violent. People are just trying to uphold India's founding principles. Police brutality has reached a new low as well.
      - sbmthakur 7y ago
        I don't think they termed entire protests as violent. You are right in saying that protests have been largely peaceful in nature. But there has been some significant violence throughout the protests. Acts like stone pelting, lynching policemen, torching buses, uprooting train tracks, attacking school buses are petrifying. And this will become worse as protests spread to semi-urban areas.
    - throw45e264 7y ago
      The protesters in Hong Kong were also throwing Molotov cocktails, destroying public property, and beating people up, but Western news media didn’t call it “violent.” Perhaps that’s the new normal?
      - electriclove 7y ago
        Western media is always anti India (largest secular democracy) and pro Pakistan (Muslim only). It makes no sense..
    - seamyb88 7y ago
      So what if they are violent? Fascism is violent. They're not going to ask people to just eff off, they're going to force them, with violence. Seems to me like what we have here is the same class war we have all over the world. If you're not on the side of the oppressed and the provoked, you're on the side of the oppressor and provocateur.
  - sbmthakur 7y ago
    > These aren't violent protests. I beg to differ. Protests in Delhi, Bengal, and UP are clearly violent. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hundreds-on-streets-of-old-delhi-to-protest-against-citizenship-act-2151984 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hundreds-on-streets-of-old-d... > Here's your proof: BJP, the ruling party, has been caught red-handed, like there were in 2002, https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca.. https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca.... This is from the article you shared: While speculation has been rife on social media on how BJP workers have been posing as anti-CAA protesters with the intention of turning the protests violent, this is the first noted case where police have taken action against someone for purportedly seeking to blame a particular community. There has been a lot of speculation on BJP's involvement in fanning violence. But it's not clear how much truth is there to it. I hope they are held accountable for whatever wrong they have done. And victims of riots (that happened in 1984, 2002 and other years) get their deserved justice. > The cognitive dissonance is strong. Could you be more specific about what you're trying to say here?

sbmthakur 7y ago

Violent protests are often organized by politicians. I won't blame Congress because I don't have proof. However, it's not something completely unheard of.

ignoramous 7y ago
> Violent protests are often... These aren't violent protests. > ...organized by politicians. In this country, violence has been forte of the political-right and has led to loss of innocent lives, like in 2002 Gujarat. I agree. These protests, however; aren't communal in nature. These are anti-government protests. > I won't blame Congress because I don't have proof Here's your proof: BJP, the ruling party, has been caught red-handed, like there were in 2002, https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullcap https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca... > However, it's not something completely unheard of. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
- quantummkv 7y ago
  > These aren't violent protests. Setting police stations on fire and lynching policemen is not violence?
  - nit_ 7y ago
    They've broadly been peaceful in nature. It's immoral to paint the entire struggle as being violent. People are just trying to uphold India's founding principles. Police brutality has reached a new low as well.
    - sbmthakur 7y ago
      I don't think they termed entire protests as violent. You are right in saying that protests have been largely peaceful in nature. But there has been some significant violence throughout the protests. Acts like stone pelting, lynching policemen, torching buses, uprooting train tracks, attacking school buses are petrifying. And this will become worse as protests spread to semi-urban areas.
  - throw45e264 7y ago
    The protesters in Hong Kong were also throwing Molotov cocktails, destroying public property, and beating people up, but Western news media didn’t call it “violent.” Perhaps that’s the new normal?
    - electriclove 7y ago
      Western media is always anti India (largest secular democracy) and pro Pakistan (Muslim only). It makes no sense..
  - seamyb88 7y ago
    So what if they are violent? Fascism is violent. They're not going to ask people to just eff off, they're going to force them, with violence. Seems to me like what we have here is the same class war we have all over the world. If you're not on the side of the oppressed and the provoked, you're on the side of the oppressor and provocateur.
- sbmthakur 7y ago
  > These aren't violent protests. I beg to differ. Protests in Delhi, Bengal, and UP are clearly violent. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hundreds-on-streets-of-old-delhi-to-protest-against-citizenship-act-2151984 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hundreds-on-streets-of-old-d... > Here's your proof: BJP, the ruling party, has been caught red-handed, like there were in 2002, https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca.. https://thewire.in/communalism/murshidabad-bjp-lungi-skullca.... This is from the article you shared: While speculation has been rife on social media on how BJP workers have been posing as anti-CAA protesters with the intention of turning the protests violent, this is the first noted case where police have taken action against someone for purportedly seeking to blame a particular community. There has been a lot of speculation on BJP's involvement in fanning violence. But it's not clear how much truth is there to it. I hope they are held accountable for whatever wrong they have done. And victims of riots (that happened in 1984, 2002 and other years) get their deserved justice. > The cognitive dissonance is strong. Could you be more specific about what you're trying to say here?