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As a consumer, just give me the full stack, and any step that involves something sketchy means I don't want to see it. I'd block anything from outside the US, a

As a consumer, just give me the full stack, and any step that involves something sketchy means I don't want to see it. I'd block anything from outside the US, anything from a network that obscures information, and maybe all VOIP numbers as well. Then at least I'd only be contactable by people subject to United States law. I already keep my cell phone on silent unless I'm expecting a call, and my voicemail is disabled. It would just be nice to not have to be notified about other calls when I do need to be reachable by phone.

viraptor 7y ago
This is not workable for an average person though. Also people just don't get how telephony works today. Here's an example: which of these is a call from out of US: - call from a person in Canada, legally using a valid US caller id - call from a US mobile roaming in Canada - call originating in the US, routed via Canadian telco back to the US - call from a US mobile in the US, using a VoIP service in Canada, legally using the same mobile's US caller id (None of these are doing anything illegal, and are valid scenarios)
- boring_twenties 7y ago
  Blocking all of those would be vastly preferable to what we have now. I get about 5 spam calls a day, so the only thing I can do is disable all incoming calls altogether. Blocking all of the things in your list, while hamfisted and far from ideal, is better than that.
- MiddleEndian 7y ago
  Yeah perhaps I don't need to block absolutely anything outside the US (and Canada), but clearly at some point there's an initial caller. If at any point I hit a hop that's not trustworthy, I don't want the call. If you can't reach me without resembling a telemarketer, I probably don't need the call. If legal but irritating companies find themselves unable to serve calls, I consider this to be a positive. If the phone system collapses, I consider that the be an improvement over having to sometimes be reachable over the current phone system.

viraptor 7y ago

This is not workable for an average person though. Also people just don't get how telephony works today. Here's an example: which of these is a call from out of US: - call from a person in Canada, legally using a valid US caller id - call from a US mobile roaming in Canada - call originating in the US, routed via Canadian telco back to the US - call from a US mobile in the US, using a VoIP service in Canada, legally using the same mobile's US caller id (None of these are doing anything illegal, and are valid scenarios)

boring_twenties 7y ago
Blocking all of those would be vastly preferable to what we have now. I get about 5 spam calls a day, so the only thing I can do is disable all incoming calls altogether. Blocking all of the things in your list, while hamfisted and far from ideal, is better than that.
MiddleEndian 7y ago
Yeah perhaps I don't need to block absolutely anything outside the US (and Canada), but clearly at some point there's an initial caller. If at any point I hit a hop that's not trustworthy, I don't want the call. If you can't reach me without resembling a telemarketer, I probably don't need the call. If legal but irritating companies find themselves unable to serve calls, I consider this to be a positive. If the phone system collapses, I consider that the be an improvement over having to sometimes be reachable over the current phone system.