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Not really: anyone can run an IRC bridge, and many people do. The #mozilla_#wherever:matrix.org namespace is the preexisting moznet bridge run by Matrix.org (n

Not really: anyone can run an IRC bridge, and many people do. The #mozilla_#wherever:matrix.org namespace is the preexisting moznet bridge run by Matrix.org (not Riot.im), but anyone with their own server could also run their own bridge, much like they could run their own bouncer today. There is then additional decentralisation from the fact that the room history is replicated throughout all the participating Matrix servers.

superkuh 7y ago
Anyone can, few do. At least in terms of what I see on the 20 IRC networks I'm connected to. The only one where people actually tend to run their own Matrix servers is on OFTC with the Freedombox (https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox) people. On Freenode I don't think I have ever seen someone connect from a Matrix server that wasn't riot.im since the creation of the Matrix protocol.
- Arathorn 7y ago
  How would you even know, though? When running personal bridges I just have them auth as my normal user account like a bouncer. Or are you looking at CTCP versions?
  - superkuh 7y ago
    The 'Real Name' field shows where they're proxying in from. Like the normal riot.im "@username:matrix.org" or self-hosted "@username:theirserver.address.tld". Is this an option that isn't the default for most matrix bridges/clients/whatever? I guess if it doesn't show in their realname field I wouldn't see it. But I imagine since the defaults seems to be what I described above the amount of users that turned that off will be fairly small and irrelevant.
nullc 7y ago
And them Matrix will happily spam IRC with links to comments instead of the comments themselves. Matrix is toxic to IRC. Any widely used IRC channel that has matrix joined to it would do well to ban matrix if they want the channel to pratically continue to exist as a IRC channel.
- Arathorn 7y ago
  The default heuristic is that if someone sends a message on Matrix which is longer than 3 lines, it gets sent as a pastebin to IRC. This feels significantly better than spamming an N-line paste into IRC, which could be seen as even more toxic. Open to suggestions on how to improve it, though...
  - MayeulC 7y ago
    > Open to suggestions on how to improve it, though... I for one would really like code blocks formatting & syntax highlight in the linked text, maybe even show all formatting :)
  - nullc 7y ago
    If someone sends an overly long message and it irritates people, they'll get asked to not do that in the future. Do you also plan to replace offensive words in messages? Forcing people to load a URL to a remote server to see a message is one of the most hostile things I've _ever_ seen an attempt at IRC integration do.

superkuh 7y ago

Anyone can, few do. At least in terms of what I see on the 20 IRC networks I'm connected to. The only one where people actually tend to run their own Matrix servers is on OFTC with the Freedombox (https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox) people. On Freenode I don't think I have ever seen someone connect from a Matrix server that wasn't riot.im since the creation of the Matrix protocol.

Arathorn 7y ago
How would you even know, though? When running personal bridges I just have them auth as my normal user account like a bouncer. Or are you looking at CTCP versions?
- superkuh 7y ago
  The 'Real Name' field shows where they're proxying in from. Like the normal riot.im "@username:matrix.org" or self-hosted "@username:theirserver.address.tld". Is this an option that isn't the default for most matrix bridges/clients/whatever? I guess if it doesn't show in their realname field I wouldn't see it. But I imagine since the defaults seems to be what I described above the amount of users that turned that off will be fairly small and irrelevant.

nullc 7y ago

And them Matrix will happily spam IRC with links to comments instead of the comments themselves. Matrix is toxic to IRC. Any widely used IRC channel that has matrix joined to it would do well to ban matrix if they want the channel to pratically continue to exist as a IRC channel.

Arathorn 7y ago
The default heuristic is that if someone sends a message on Matrix which is longer than 3 lines, it gets sent as a pastebin to IRC. This feels significantly better than spamming an N-line paste into IRC, which could be seen as even more toxic. Open to suggestions on how to improve it, though...
- MayeulC 7y ago
  > Open to suggestions on how to improve it, though... I for one would really like code blocks formatting & syntax highlight in the linked text, maybe even show all formatting :)
- nullc 7y ago
  If someone sends an overly long message and it irritates people, they'll get asked to not do that in the future. Do you also plan to replace offensive words in messages? Forcing people to load a URL to a remote server to see a message is one of the most hostile things I've _ever_ seen an attempt at IRC integration do.