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An SSD can make a world of difference. Most of the time spent during boot up is in executing random reads (of about 4Kb size) from storage, and SSDs are a facto

An SSD can make a world of difference. Most of the time spent during boot up is in executing random reads (of about 4Kb size) from storage, and SSDs are a factor of magnitude faster there

kabdib 7y ago
Sorry, most of a box's boot time is the BIOS and other stuff. The servers I run at work take 3-4 minutes to boot, the last twenty seconds or so is the OS coming up. The consumer PCs I use have a similar ratio. POST time is crazy bad. It's almost like the engineers working on it don't care.
- Avamander 7y ago
  UEFI Fast boot improves it significantly on modern hardware.
  - maemilius 7y ago
    In all 25 years I've used computers, I can't recall having a PC that took more than a minute to POST. Ever. My current PC's fast boot is fast enough that it looks like the computer turns on and goes straight to Windows. Maybe I've just gotten really lucky...
    - Proziam 7y ago
      All of my machines are the same. From the time I plug in the power cable and hit the go button I can expect to see my desktop in around 10 seconds. It's fast enough that when I'm in discord with coworkers and need to switch OS it doesn't really affect the workflow at all.
      - reificator 7y ago
        I'm curious about why a workplace would settle on Discord. Are you in game development, is there a killer feature that Discord has compared to the competition, or was it just what people were comfortable with at home? Not implying that it's bad software, I'm just curious because it sounds unusual.
        Proziam 7y ago
        I can think of several reasons. #1 for us, is that we're a marketing agency serving a lot of the gaming industry, so working with content creators or industry folk who sometimes default to discord is convenient. That said, Discord is a free quick and easy tool that everyone can install, on any os, and be up and running anywhere in the world for comms in less than a minute. In the box, there's video conferencing, screen sharing, chat, and more. The example I gave above happens regularly, as I use Deepin Linux as my typical daily driver while I'm working. However, if the need to open an adobe suite tool comes up, I can quickly swap over. Discord works fine for me on both platforms and my phone. All in all, I don't really like discord all that much. It's not the best at anything. But it has the advantage of being both convenient and feature-rich overall. There are better solutions out there, but none are as convenient or free.
    - nwmcsween 7y ago
      pretty much any server in existence (vendor hw) takes minutes to boot, it's painful having to test bios options on most servers.
- Piskvorrr 7y ago
  It's almost like a server is expected to spend approximately 0,000% of its lifetime doing POST.
  - Retric 7y ago
    In normal operations sure, but in downtime that’s another story.
    - Piskvorrr 7y ago
      In that case, you shouldn't be looking for an answer to "how can I make a faster (rebooting) horse," but rather "is there a way to make this redundant, so that a single node offline won't critically endanger the system?"
wnevets 7y ago
SSD + Windows 10 + Fast Boot = seconds of boot time
- jjeaff 7y ago
  I have win 10, fast boot and two nvme drives striping in raid 0. Boots in maybe 8 seconds.

An SSD can make a world of difference. Most of the time spent during boot up is in executing random reads (of about 4Kb size) from storage, and SSDs are a factor of magnitude faster there

kabdib 7y ago

Sorry, most of a box's boot time is the BIOS and other stuff. The servers I run at work take 3-4 minutes to boot, the last twenty seconds or so is the OS coming up. The consumer PCs I use have a similar ratio. POST time is crazy bad. It's almost like the engineers working on it don't care.

Avamander 7y ago
UEFI Fast boot improves it significantly on modern hardware.
- maemilius 7y ago
  In all 25 years I've used computers, I can't recall having a PC that took more than a minute to POST. Ever. My current PC's fast boot is fast enough that it looks like the computer turns on and goes straight to Windows. Maybe I've just gotten really lucky...
  - Proziam 7y ago
    All of my machines are the same. From the time I plug in the power cable and hit the go button I can expect to see my desktop in around 10 seconds. It's fast enough that when I'm in discord with coworkers and need to switch OS it doesn't really affect the workflow at all.
    - reificator 7y ago
      I'm curious about why a workplace would settle on Discord. Are you in game development, is there a killer feature that Discord has compared to the competition, or was it just what people were comfortable with at home? Not implying that it's bad software, I'm just curious because it sounds unusual.
      - Proziam 7y ago
        I can think of several reasons. #1 for us, is that we're a marketing agency serving a lot of the gaming industry, so working with content creators or industry folk who sometimes default to discord is convenient. That said, Discord is a free quick and easy tool that everyone can install, on any os, and be up and running anywhere in the world for comms in less than a minute. In the box, there's video conferencing, screen sharing, chat, and more. The example I gave above happens regularly, as I use Deepin Linux as my typical daily driver while I'm working. However, if the need to open an adobe suite tool comes up, I can quickly swap over. Discord works fine for me on both platforms and my phone. All in all, I don't really like discord all that much. It's not the best at anything. But it has the advantage of being both convenient and feature-rich overall. There are better solutions out there, but none are as convenient or free.
  - nwmcsween 7y ago
    pretty much any server in existence (vendor hw) takes minutes to boot, it's painful having to test bios options on most servers.
Piskvorrr 7y ago
It's almost like a server is expected to spend approximately 0,000% of its lifetime doing POST.
- Retric 7y ago
  In normal operations sure, but in downtime that’s another story.
  - Piskvorrr 7y ago
    In that case, you shouldn't be looking for an answer to "how can I make a faster (rebooting) horse," but rather "is there a way to make this redundant, so that a single node offline won't critically endanger the system?"

wnevets 7y ago

SSD + Windows 10 + Fast Boot = seconds of boot time

jjeaff 7y ago
I have win 10, fast boot and two nvme drives striping in raid 0. Boots in maybe 8 seconds.