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So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain furthe

So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain further?

gsnedders 7y ago
(Also, Rust isn't under MoCo, it's under MoFo directly.)
- pcwalton 7y ago
  Rust isn't "under" either. The core team, who are ultimately in charge, don't report to anybody in the Mozilla organization.
- est31 7y ago
  In which way? I've thought the Rust engineers were employees of the Mozilla corporation? And the Rust trademark seems to be owned by the Mozilla corporation as well: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87796977&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87796977&caseSearchType=U...
  - steveklabnik 7y ago
    All Mozilla employees working on Rust are under Moco, not Mofo, that's correct. Unless something extremely drastic that nobody has talked about has happened in the last year. Almost all of Mozilla is under Moco.
dzypa 7y ago
Yes, if you are getting paid by someone you should do what they ask of you, especially when it's something sensible.
- icebraining 7y ago
  Most Rust contributors are not Mozilla employees. Even in the core team, 3 of 9 members weren't (as of 2017, may be different today),
  - steveklabnik 7y ago
    It is 3 of 9 today as well. (In 2017 it was higher!)
- StavrosK 7y ago
  So if I give you a dollar you'll stop commenting?
  - dsypa 7y ago
    If you were paying me to comment and you wanted me to stop commenting, yes definitely. I could go my own way and comment for free (as I already do) and then I would be able to do whatever I wanted. But as long as I am funded by you, yes I should do what you ask of me.
    - StavrosK 7y ago
      Wouldn't you have a choice between continuing to get paid or continuing to comment? And what if I already knew your decision would be to stop getting paid and quit HN but I still needed you to continue being on HN because your presence here was valuable to me? Would that not mean that I'm paying you, but I can't force you to do anything without harming myself much more than you?
      - orthecreedence 7y ago
        Haven't you heard? Nuance isn't a thing anymore. All decisions are binary. Get with the times.

So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain further?

gsnedders 7y ago

(Also, Rust isn't under MoCo, it's under MoFo directly.)

pcwalton 7y ago
Rust isn't "under" either. The core team, who are ultimately in charge, don't report to anybody in the Mozilla organization.
est31 7y ago
In which way? I've thought the Rust engineers were employees of the Mozilla corporation? And the Rust trademark seems to be owned by the Mozilla corporation as well: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87796977&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87796977&caseSearchType=U...
- steveklabnik 7y ago
  All Mozilla employees working on Rust are under Moco, not Mofo, that's correct. Unless something extremely drastic that nobody has talked about has happened in the last year. Almost all of Mozilla is under Moco.

dzypa 7y ago

Yes, if you are getting paid by someone you should do what they ask of you, especially when it's something sensible.

icebraining 7y ago
Most Rust contributors are not Mozilla employees. Even in the core team, 3 of 9 members weren't (as of 2017, may be different today),
- steveklabnik 7y ago
  It is 3 of 9 today as well. (In 2017 it was higher!)
StavrosK 7y ago
So if I give you a dollar you'll stop commenting?
- dsypa 7y ago
  If you were paying me to comment and you wanted me to stop commenting, yes definitely. I could go my own way and comment for free (as I already do) and then I would be able to do whatever I wanted. But as long as I am funded by you, yes I should do what you ask of me.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    Wouldn't you have a choice between continuing to get paid or continuing to comment? And what if I already knew your decision would be to stop getting paid and quit HN but I still needed you to continue being on HN because your presence here was valuable to me? Would that not mean that I'm paying you, but I can't force you to do anything without harming myself much more than you?
    - orthecreedence 7y ago
      Haven't you heard? Nuance isn't a thing anymore. All decisions are binary. Get with the times.