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I don't understand how people struggle with this concept. There's a reason pilots all over the world must learn English. Fragmenting the development community a

I don't understand how people struggle with this concept. There's a reason pilots all over the world must learn English. Fragmenting the development community across language boundaries benefits no one. A great example is Clickhouse. Russian product, build by an all-Russian team. Yet their docs are in English and they track issues on github in English. I could read them if they were in Russian, but then I would never advocate for the use of Clickhouse in any commercial projects. If Tencent is unable to cross that bar, then the project should absolutely be rejected from the Linux foundation.

ksec 7y ago
This, not to mention programming languages in itself is sort of English ( Especially in Ruby ). >If Tencent is unable to cross that bar, then the project should absolutely be rejected from the Linux foundation. I could bet $100 dollar the result of that would then be politics.
sangnoir 7y ago
> If Tencent is unable to cross that bar, then the project should absolutely be rejected from the Linux foundation. Weird how you think Tencent should perfect the project before the LF accepts it. Why can't the LF support the English documentation effort? To me, it sounds like you not only don't you want to be involved in a non-English project, but you don't want anyone else to be, and my question is "Why?"
- missosoup 7y ago
  The answer is above. Because it fragments the development community which ultimately harms everyone. LF translating documentation for them is a one-shot effort that's ultimately going to be useless as time goes on without someone on their side dedicated to keeping it updated and keeping github issues in English. It's not too much of an ask. Again, see Clickhouse for an example of how to do international open source correctly.
  - sangnoir 7y ago
    > Because it fragments the development community which ultimately harms everyone. Your implicit assumption is that the Chinese-speaking development community is not sufficient to sustain the project. I don't think that scenario would be fragmentation but the addition of a new developer segment (net addition).

ksec 7y ago

This, not to mention programming languages in itself is sort of English ( Especially in Ruby ). >If Tencent is unable to cross that bar, then the project should absolutely be rejected from the Linux foundation. I could bet $100 dollar the result of that would then be politics.

sangnoir 7y ago

> If Tencent is unable to cross that bar, then the project should absolutely be rejected from the Linux foundation. Weird how you think Tencent should perfect the project before the LF accepts it. Why can't the LF support the English documentation effort? To me, it sounds like you not only don't you want to be involved in a non-English project, but you don't want anyone else to be, and my question is "Why?"

missosoup 7y ago
The answer is above. Because it fragments the development community which ultimately harms everyone. LF translating documentation for them is a one-shot effort that's ultimately going to be useless as time goes on without someone on their side dedicated to keeping it updated and keeping github issues in English. It's not too much of an ask. Again, see Clickhouse for an example of how to do international open source correctly.
- sangnoir 7y ago
  > Because it fragments the development community which ultimately harms everyone. Your implicit assumption is that the Chinese-speaking development community is not sufficient to sustain the project. I don't think that scenario would be fragmentation but the addition of a new developer segment (net addition).