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Answer: no. Not by any real definition of a narco-state[1]. There is a lot of drug trafficking/production, but there is no meaningful infiltration into the offi

by kabes 7y ago

Answer: no. Not by any real definition of a narco-state[1]. There is a lot of drug trafficking/production, but there is no meaningful infiltration into the official institutions/government. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-state

seqizz 7y ago
Ah, of course, "Betteridge's law of headlines" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...
- blaser-waffle 7y ago
  This could be the theme of HN. "Is React going to upend the programming world forever?!" "AMD Soars, is Intel's time over?" etc. etc.
jillesvangurp 7y ago
The reason for people being upset is not the drug usage, which is actually not much of an issue (arguably less so than in other countries). The local drug policies actually work in preventing that from becoming an epidemic issue like elsewhere. The real reason is the high profile violent murders of witnesses, lawyers, etc. associated with trials of high profile criminals with Moroccan roots. This particular minority has been the focus of populist politicians for decades because of the much higher crime rates in that community (compared to other minorities). Murders and assassinations are of course not specific to that minority. Recently, re-convicted Willem Holleder (famous for his part in kidnapping Freddie Heineken in the eighties) is basically in jail for ordering the liquidation of several of his criminal partners. Unlike his Moroccon colleagues he's somewhat of a celebrity and has been for decades. In any case drug production and export is of course illegal but not considered much of a problem as long as people don't go about machine gunning each other down. I'm not a user of any of this stuff but if other people want to take some pills, smoke some weed, or snort some cocaine that's fine with me. I doubt it's very good for you but most people doing this seem to not end up being homeless drug addicts. The ones that do tend to have psychological issues. Decriminalizing them seems like a humane thing to do. In any case, legalizing this stuff so people don't have to engage with and enrich hardcore criminals would probably be a good thing. Like it or not, this is a multi billion dollar business and it's not going away.

by kabes 7y ago

seqizz 7y ago

Ah, of course, "Betteridge's law of headlines" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...

blaser-waffle 7y ago
This could be the theme of HN. "Is React going to upend the programming world forever?!" "AMD Soars, is Intel's time over?" etc. etc.

jillesvangurp 7y ago

The reason for people being upset is not the drug usage, which is actually not much of an issue (arguably less so than in other countries). The local drug policies actually work in preventing that from becoming an epidemic issue like elsewhere. The real reason is the high profile violent murders of witnesses, lawyers, etc. associated with trials of high profile criminals with Moroccan roots. This particular minority has been the focus of populist politicians for decades because of the much higher crime rates in that community (compared to other minorities). Murders and assassinations are of course not specific to that minority. Recently, re-convicted Willem Holleder (famous for his part in kidnapping Freddie Heineken in the eighties) is basically in jail for ordering the liquidation of several of his criminal partners. Unlike his Moroccon colleagues he's somewhat of a celebrity and has been for decades. In any case drug production and export is of course illegal but not considered much of a problem as long as people don't go about machine gunning each other down. I'm not a user of any of this stuff but if other people want to take some pills, smoke some weed, or snort some cocaine that's fine with me. I doubt it's very good for you but most people doing this seem to not end up being homeless drug addicts. The ones that do tend to have psychological issues. Decriminalizing them seems like a humane thing to do. In any case, legalizing this stuff so people don't have to engage with and enrich hardcore criminals would probably be a good thing. Like it or not, this is a multi billion dollar business and it's not going away.