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That's more a statement on Adobe's quality of engineering than computing. CC is awful software and I hope their engineers are embarrassed by its deployment for

That's more a statement on Adobe's quality of engineering than computing. CC is awful software and I hope their engineers are embarrassed by its deployment for the fantastic platform that is their creative tooling.

throwaway2048 7y ago
Most user facing software is more like adobe's quality than unlike adobe's quality.
- mcv 7y ago
  Most software surprises me with how much time it needs to start. Games are particularly slow, I guess because they need to load the entire engine and all assets before they can even show you a game menu, but even very simple applications can be slow. On the laptop I'm typing this on, Windows Explorer often takes several seconds to open.
  - account42 7y ago
    Games tend to be optimized for framerates so it makes sense to sacrifice load times for that. Of course there are plenty of games that are just badly optimized and could improve both framerates and load times.
    - tripzilch 7y ago
      Games on old machines also used to have loading screens, remember? They actually sometimes took quite a bit longer than, say, starting PS on a modern machine. I don't think games a very useful comparison in this context, it's more about utility and application software.
TeMPOraL 7y ago
The whole point on that rant and supporting comments here is that almost all software today is of such "quality of engineering".
Reedx 7y ago
Right, that's that point. Why does Photoshop take so long to start up and be usable even on incredibly powerful hardware? It's hard to find an excuse, considering: - Adobe has vast resources - Photoshop is a mature piece of software - It's image editing, not a complex video game (look at what something like Red Dead Redemption 2 can accomplish with every frame, @ 60FPS)
- joshspankit 7y ago
  I would argue that it’s because of vast resources. Both Adobe’s, and their customers. At a certain level, when a graphic designer complains that Photoshop is too slow, they don’t push back against Adobe for optimizing poorly, they just buy a new computer.

throwaway2048 7y ago

Most user facing software is more like adobe's quality than unlike adobe's quality.

mcv 7y ago
Most software surprises me with how much time it needs to start. Games are particularly slow, I guess because they need to load the entire engine and all assets before they can even show you a game menu, but even very simple applications can be slow. On the laptop I'm typing this on, Windows Explorer often takes several seconds to open.
- account42 7y ago
  Games tend to be optimized for framerates so it makes sense to sacrifice load times for that. Of course there are plenty of games that are just badly optimized and could improve both framerates and load times.
  - tripzilch 7y ago
    Games on old machines also used to have loading screens, remember? They actually sometimes took quite a bit longer than, say, starting PS on a modern machine. I don't think games a very useful comparison in this context, it's more about utility and application software.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

The whole point on that rant and supporting comments here is that almost all software today is of such "quality of engineering".

Reedx 7y ago

Right, that's that point. Why does Photoshop take so long to start up and be usable even on incredibly powerful hardware? It's hard to find an excuse, considering: - Adobe has vast resources - Photoshop is a mature piece of software - It's image editing, not a complex video game (look at what something like Red Dead Redemption 2 can accomplish with every frame, @ 60FPS)

joshspankit 7y ago
I would argue that it’s because of vast resources. Both Adobe’s, and their customers. At a certain level, when a graphic designer complains that Photoshop is too slow, they don’t push back against Adobe for optimizing poorly, they just buy a new computer.