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I scoffed at Apples for years before getting a 2012 Macbook Pro for the Retina display. I'm still using it 7+ years later whereas the highly rated Vaios and Thi

I scoffed at Apples for years before getting a 2012 Macbook Pro for the Retina display. I'm still using it 7+ years later whereas the highly rated Vaios and Thinkpads I had before conked out in less than 3 years each. The Unix underlying macOS has been rock solid and I can run whatever I need to. I much prefer Android to iOS though. I'm worried by what I hear even from full-on Apple aficionados about the new notebooks and Catalina, which I am resisting. I have to use Windows 10 at work and I don't like it nearly as much. Someday this MBP will need replacing and I feel like I am caught with no good option other than dealing with Windows-whatever or paying a huge Apple premium for hardware that may not be worth it. (I have tried several flavors of Linux desktops and have been frustrated by all of them)

pram 7y ago
FWIW I have the new 16 inch MBP and I like it a lot more than my 2015 rMBP. Touch ID is a thing you won't want to live without once you've had it on a laptop ;P
- andrewksl 7y ago
  I'll second this. They fixed everything that was wrong with the previous generation, and it's hardware I'd actually recommend now. Catalina, on the other hand...
  - OldGuyInTheClub 7y ago
    This is reassuring. I hope that by the time I need to replace that Catalina or its successor will be stable. I keep an eye on refurbished 2015 MBPs because my friends who have them rave about them and don't want to give them up. BTW, I am still relatively new to HN. This article/thread is marked as 'flagged' for some reason and I have to access it through my own "Comments" link. Can anyone explain why? It seems on-topic. I have not submitted anything yet and am trying to understand the ground rules.
IggleSniggle 7y ago
I'm in the same boat. Except a part of me keeps haunting my thoughts: "you still haven't tried FreeBSD...you still haven't tried OpenBSD..." And there's another part that goes: "Linux just needs a tyrant...maybe System76/PopOS is good..." but then I go on with my day in macOS. I haven't used Catalina yet, but I also don't really have any 32-bit apps that I care about losing. I've found a way to make the TouchBar useful (BetterTouchTool). I map CAPS to Esc anyway. I kinda like the keyboard when I'm only using it for short periods of time (ie not hooked up to my full desktop setup). Those are the main complaints that I am aware of, and I don't share them. I know I'm the weird one, but my 2017 MBP is my favorite computing device to date. You'd think that'd buy some loyalty, but I can still hear voices ("...you will love OpenBSD...just try it...")
x3sphere 7y ago
I picked up the MBP 16" and I've been pretty happy with it. No issues, coming from the 2013 rMBP. I held off on buying a new laptop for awhile due to all the keyboard issues, glad they've gone back to the old design. I do wish some of the hardware was self upgradable though, but I doubt Apple is ever going to move away from having all the components soldered on. Not sure about Catalina, I've read a lot of people having issues with it, but personally none of them have affected me. I don't use any 32-bit apps and the security prompts can be a bit annoying but not disruptive to my workflow since it's mostly just a one time thing for each app.

pram 7y ago

FWIW I have the new 16 inch MBP and I like it a lot more than my 2015 rMBP. Touch ID is a thing you won't want to live without once you've had it on a laptop ;P

andrewksl 7y ago
I'll second this. They fixed everything that was wrong with the previous generation, and it's hardware I'd actually recommend now. Catalina, on the other hand...
- OldGuyInTheClub 7y ago
  This is reassuring. I hope that by the time I need to replace that Catalina or its successor will be stable. I keep an eye on refurbished 2015 MBPs because my friends who have them rave about them and don't want to give them up. BTW, I am still relatively new to HN. This article/thread is marked as 'flagged' for some reason and I have to access it through my own "Comments" link. Can anyone explain why? It seems on-topic. I have not submitted anything yet and am trying to understand the ground rules.

IggleSniggle 7y ago

I'm in the same boat. Except a part of me keeps haunting my thoughts: "you still haven't tried FreeBSD...you still haven't tried OpenBSD..." And there's another part that goes: "Linux just needs a tyrant...maybe System76/PopOS is good..." but then I go on with my day in macOS. I haven't used Catalina yet, but I also don't really have any 32-bit apps that I care about losing. I've found a way to make the TouchBar useful (BetterTouchTool). I map CAPS to Esc anyway. I kinda like the keyboard when I'm only using it for short periods of time (ie not hooked up to my full desktop setup). Those are the main complaints that I am aware of, and I don't share them. I know I'm the weird one, but my 2017 MBP is my favorite computing device to date. You'd think that'd buy some loyalty, but I can still hear voices ("...you will love OpenBSD...just try it...")

x3sphere 7y ago

I picked up the MBP 16" and I've been pretty happy with it. No issues, coming from the 2013 rMBP. I held off on buying a new laptop for awhile due to all the keyboard issues, glad they've gone back to the old design. I do wish some of the hardware was self upgradable though, but I doubt Apple is ever going to move away from having all the components soldered on. Not sure about Catalina, I've read a lot of people having issues with it, but personally none of them have affected me. I don't use any 32-bit apps and the security prompts can be a bit annoying but not disruptive to my workflow since it's mostly just a one time thing for each app.