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This is par for the WITCH companies (WiPro, Infy, TCS etc.). Indian companies, Indian culture. If you can get away with anything, even INSIDE the company, you d

This is par for the WITCH companies (WiPro, Infy, TCS etc.). Indian companies, Indian culture. If you can get away with anything, even INSIDE the company, you do it, and don't stop unless the penalty is massive. I guarantee you the same behavior is still going on, perhaps only outside of California but a good chance inside as well.

saagarjha 7y ago
> Indian companies, Indian culture. Your comment would be significantly improved if you didn't lump in some casual racism.
- primitivesuave 7y ago
  Indians such as myself are well aware of the reality of Indian work culture and business ethics. Indian corporations take tax evasion, environmental negligence, and worker abuse to an extreme far beyond what the US or any other developed country has to deal with. It is certainly improving for several reasons - a burgeoning startup environment, environmental awareness, better education - but I hardly find it racist to point it out.
- tomc1985 7y ago
  Stereotypes based on half-truths aren't necessarily rascist
  - dang 7y ago
    Internet discourse based on them quickly sinks to the bottom of the barrel.
- sabujp 7y ago
  This: replace indian with chinese or any other country where the quality of life, pay, and opportunities are not as great as in the destination countries and you have the main reason, a large pool of desperate people and managers/directors trying to "improve" their bottom line. Pay everyone the same across the board! Why pay programmers of equal value differently for the exact same work? FAANG companies do this within the US across various regions. How about fixing that first.
  - ipiyer 7y ago
    For the same orange juice, you pay a premium price at wholefoods, don't you? There is nothing alike here. Your pay depends on your skill and your ability to sell yourself.
- code_sloth 7y ago
  Just taking the parent comment at face value, does it really qualify as racist / slur? Yes, it invoked a country and a race, followed by unflattering statements. Are those statements factual? Unfair generalisations or politically incorrect? I'm leaning towards it being politically incorrect.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Saying that certain Indian companies do things is fine; it becomes an unfair generalization when you try to to extrapolate that to being because of their country's culture to be dishonest.
  - zozbot234 7y ago
    It's just repeating a tired stereotype. India is becoming a less corrupt country over time as institutional arrangements (not "culture" which is irrelevant to the issue) improve. It's already less corrupt than many of its neighbors.
dang 7y ago
> Indian companies, Indian culture. Racial and national slurs will get you banned here. Please don't do this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've given you many warnings. If you keep breaking the site guidelines we will ban you.
shrubble 7y ago
It also applies to the companies that do business with Filipino engineer H1Bs also(What I am familiar with involves those in the telecom and cell tower industry though). So not exclusive
scarejunba 7y ago
The relative popularity of this comment should reveal to foreigners what will happen if the tech industry unionizes. It will be a collective expression of this “I’m not racist but Indians...” and “I’m not racist but Chinese...” stuff. Protectionism is bedfellows with xenophobia. Ready yourselves.

saagarjha 7y ago

> Indian companies, Indian culture. Your comment would be significantly improved if you didn't lump in some casual racism.

primitivesuave 7y ago
Indians such as myself are well aware of the reality of Indian work culture and business ethics. Indian corporations take tax evasion, environmental negligence, and worker abuse to an extreme far beyond what the US or any other developed country has to deal with. It is certainly improving for several reasons - a burgeoning startup environment, environmental awareness, better education - but I hardly find it racist to point it out.
tomc1985 7y ago
Stereotypes based on half-truths aren't necessarily rascist
- dang 7y ago
  Internet discourse based on them quickly sinks to the bottom of the barrel.
sabujp 7y ago
This: replace indian with chinese or any other country where the quality of life, pay, and opportunities are not as great as in the destination countries and you have the main reason, a large pool of desperate people and managers/directors trying to "improve" their bottom line. Pay everyone the same across the board! Why pay programmers of equal value differently for the exact same work? FAANG companies do this within the US across various regions. How about fixing that first.
- ipiyer 7y ago
  For the same orange juice, you pay a premium price at wholefoods, don't you? There is nothing alike here. Your pay depends on your skill and your ability to sell yourself.
code_sloth 7y ago
Just taking the parent comment at face value, does it really qualify as racist / slur? Yes, it invoked a country and a race, followed by unflattering statements. Are those statements factual? Unfair generalisations or politically incorrect? I'm leaning towards it being politically incorrect.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Saying that certain Indian companies do things is fine; it becomes an unfair generalization when you try to to extrapolate that to being because of their country's culture to be dishonest.
- zozbot234 7y ago
  It's just repeating a tired stereotype. India is becoming a less corrupt country over time as institutional arrangements (not "culture" which is irrelevant to the issue) improve. It's already less corrupt than many of its neighbors.

dang 7y ago

> Indian companies, Indian culture. Racial and national slurs will get you banned here. Please don't do this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've given you many warnings. If you keep breaking the site guidelines we will ban you.

shrubble 7y ago

It also applies to the companies that do business with Filipino engineer H1Bs also(What I am familiar with involves those in the telecom and cell tower industry though). So not exclusive

scarejunba 7y ago

The relative popularity of this comment should reveal to foreigners what will happen if the tech industry unionizes. It will be a collective expression of this “I’m not racist but Indians...” and “I’m not racist but Chinese...” stuff. Protectionism is bedfellows with xenophobia. Ready yourselves.