> But you ignored the whole actual line of argument around the guns used for defense, so you could get a little snipey comment in here. What argument negates t

> But you ignored the whole actual line of argument around the guns used for defense, so you could get a little snipey comment in here. What argument negates the fact that owning a gun is dangerous for the owner, in some of the exact ways a gun is meant to defend against (and some of the ways rural men seem to think they're immune to)? > Seriously, everyone knows that epidemiological studies, and even case control studies suck, in large part because of just how prone they are to finding associations that are actually caused by unmeasured factors that affect multiple measured variables. What superior alternative are you proposing? > And if you're going to buy a weapon just for suicide, everyone knows a rifle is less convenient than a handgun and only equally effective. Again, this is precisely one of the reasons why I recommend owning a 22 bolt action.