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Even the most left-leaning studies show that the hourly wage, taking into account all expenses (including depreciation) and basic healthcare, is around $9.50 pe

Even the most left-leaning studies show that the hourly wage, taking into account all expenses (including depreciation) and basic healthcare, is around $9.50 per hour. If you have another job, that number goes up and Uber becomes much more lucrative, because you can target surge pricing in your free time. Other empirical studies show that Uber/Lyft drivers forego wages for the flexibility of Uber. It's a tradeoff that many are clearly willing to make, and Californian politicians are wagging their finger and telling them that they're being fooled.

kelnos 7y ago
Pretty sure we've already decided as a state that the minimum livable wage is $15/hr, so $9.50 doesn't cut it. Are there stats on how many Uber drivers have a second job vs. for how many it's their primary source of income. Regardless, I reject the notion that someone should be required to hold down more than one job in order to make ends meet. If they like to have more than one job, and the total hours work out to something reasonable, sure, but my impression of this is that we see people working multiple jobs out of necessity, at significantly north of 40 hours per week, and are still living paycheck-to-paycheck.
- keenmaster 7y ago
  I was referring to the low end of nationwide estimates. Average earnings in California must be higher. Also: - As of 2015, 69% of Uber drivers drove for Uber on the side. - 97% were satisfied with the flexibility of their schedule - 16% drove for a set amount of time, as opposed to setting an earnings goal or "it just depends on my schedule" - 50% drive fewer than 10 hours a week, on average AB5 throws a wrench in all of that. The trend from 2014-2015 was towards more flexible workers, so the above numbers may have gone up since then. Source: Benenson Strategy Group, as shared via USA Today https://bit.ly/2PyO1uq https://bit.ly/2PyO1uq

kelnos 7y ago

Pretty sure we've already decided as a state that the minimum livable wage is $15/hr, so $9.50 doesn't cut it. Are there stats on how many Uber drivers have a second job vs. for how many it's their primary source of income. Regardless, I reject the notion that someone should be required to hold down more than one job in order to make ends meet. If they like to have more than one job, and the total hours work out to something reasonable, sure, but my impression of this is that we see people working multiple jobs out of necessity, at significantly north of 40 hours per week, and are still living paycheck-to-paycheck.

keenmaster 7y ago
I was referring to the low end of nationwide estimates. Average earnings in California must be higher. Also: - As of 2015, 69% of Uber drivers drove for Uber on the side. - 97% were satisfied with the flexibility of their schedule - 16% drove for a set amount of time, as opposed to setting an earnings goal or "it just depends on my schedule" - 50% drive fewer than 10 hours a week, on average AB5 throws a wrench in all of that. The trend from 2014-2015 was towards more flexible workers, so the above numbers may have gone up since then. Source: Benenson Strategy Group, as shared via USA Today https://bit.ly/2PyO1uq https://bit.ly/2PyO1uq