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Why does the government need to stick their fingers in this? No one needs Facebook. If you’re not happy with the product or with the company’s ethics, stop usi
by avalys 7y ago
Why does the government need to stick their fingers in this? No one needs Facebook. If you’re not happy with the product or with the company’s ethics, stop using it.
- qrbLPHiKpiux 7y agoSir, have an upvote. Spot on. Unfortunately, there are those - wired - to be dependent on it and know nothing else. This is a very big, overlooked problem.
- yellow_postit 7y agoThis argument could be made for any ~addictive~ product. Minimal requirements can shift the burden off of every single consumer.
- chongli 7y agoBecause you can’t opt out. Facebook creates shadow profiles for people who have never created an account. They track people’s faces in photos they appear in that were posted by friends. They link people’s personal information to their shadow profile whenever a user allows Facebook to access their address book contacts. Facebook is a pervasive, all-consuming data monster. If lawmakers don’t rein it in, it will grow so powerful that it will challenge the sovereignty of governments. It’s not a joke.
- avalys 7y agoBy what mechanism does an individual suffer harm through this shadow profile? In what way do you imagine Facebook challenging the sovereignty of a government?
- gdhbcc 7y agoThey are having data about themselves collected without their consent. That is the harm.
- avalys 7y agoIn what way is that harmful to them?
- throwaheyy 7y agoAre you being wilfully obtuse?
- craftinator 7y agoDoes taking photographs of a mountain harm it? Articulate your reasoning, rather and resorting to vague insinuations.
- austhrow743 7y agoAt some point in the reasoning chain you reach the bad thing that is bad because its intrinsically bad and if you try to reason more you'll just go in circles. Or you enter a philosophical debate of such depth that it's stupid to have it with internet strangers. Drink driving is bad. Why is that? You might cause a crash. Why is that bad? People could die. Why is that bad? They'll be dead. Why is that bad. They don't get to exist any more. Articulate your reasoning!!!!
- ramblerman 7y agoWith enough data you can segment for almost any group. - Who is likely to vote Bernie? - Who is gay? - Who is gay, but not out? - Who is cheating on their wife? Etc etc.. If you can't see the potential for harm at both the individual level (think extortion) or political level of that kind of power I'm not sure what would convince you.
- JohnFen 7y agoIf data is collected about you without your consent, that collection is itself harm, because your rights and intent are being actively bypassed. That's plenty harm enough all by itself.
- chongli 7y agoTwo words: Cambridge Analytica.
- avalys 7y agoCan you explain how any individual was harmed?
- perl4ever 7y agoIf challenging the sovereignty of governments is the problem, then there's an obvious solution - just nationalize it! Then all the tracking will be done in the public interest and we can go back to sleep.