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Show HN: Snapshotly – Automated DigitalOcean Backups

24 points by mezuky 7y ago

corinadalea 7y ago
Interesting product. My DigitalOcean droplets have only weekly backups. I will give it a try for creating daily snapshots.
- mezuky 7y ago
  Let me know if I can help with anything. Thanks!
- iiCe89 7y ago
  Your better off with https://snapshooter.io/ https://snapshooter.io/ imo never let me or my team down
  - corinadalea 7y ago
    Thanks for the proposal, but I'm good paying less for more.
    - dorkley 7y ago
      As long as you're happy trusting someone who ripped off another persons business, and was then stupid enough to rip off their site content and forget to change the name. And then when they were caught, stole another companies privacy policy and again forgot to change the name. This copycat will last a month or two and then vanish. You'd have to think very little of your own website/business/server to trust someone like that. I don't really know snapshooter all that well (the one they ripped off) but just googling it I can see its got a bit more credibility, it looks like they're a digitalocean partner which alone speaks volumes.
bberenberg 7y ago
Does a snapshot mean that you're doing native DO snapshots? The throughput for these is terrible (1-4gb/min) and also had performance implications in our past tests.
- mezuky 7y ago
  Yes, native DO snapshots are used. I tested with droplets up to 100 GB in occupied disk size and the snapshot required over 1 hour to be ready. For volumes, the time is lower. Unfortunately, this is a limitation for most of the cloud providers.
chrsstrm 7y ago
You’re using the terms backup and snapshot interchangeably but they are not the same thing. Snapshots are images and require your droplet to be powered down. Which service are you providing?
- mezuky 7y ago
  Snapshots are used because they persist even after the droplet/volume was deleted and you pay per GB/month instead of 20% of the droplet price. For volumes, you only have the option to create a snapshot. The "backups" term is used mostly for SEO purposes. When a user wants backups for his droplet, probably for him is not important if the backup is considered by DO a "backup" or a "snapshot". The DigitalOcean backups are also images at the core because the point-in-time image is created in the same way. From the DO docs: 1. A snapshot of the live system is taken, creating a crash-consistent, point-in-time image. 2. The snapshot is backed up off-disk. 3. The snapshot is deleted once the backup is complete. Regarding the recommendation of powering of the droplet, in the future maybe there will be an option to choose if you want this before taking the snapshot. This will be useful for droplets with write-intensive operations. Thanks, Alex
kkwtfeliz 7y ago
Where are the "backups" being stored? Are they just snapshots sitting in my DO account? If so, I can just do this by myself with the DO API... if not, how are you downloading the snapshots? I don't recall if DO allows this right now.
dorkley 7y ago
Looks like you've just ripped off snapshooter.io tbh.
Jamesking56 7y ago
Is this essentially $15 / month to press 'Snapshot' in DigitalOcean or am I missing the point here?
DeanLJ 7y ago
I'm all for open competition but you should have chosen a different name, your choice is just sleazy IMHO. As dorkley said, a rip off of the original and best ... SnapShooter.io
- stocktech 7y ago
  This seems like unfair criticism. I'd say snapshooter and snapshotly are sufficiently different. If the websites were similar, I'd see your point, but snapshotly is different enough that's it a clear price competitor.
  - dorkley 7y ago
    The moron ripped off the site content from snap shooter and even left in the company name. He absolutely deserves criticism. The guy is scum.
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reillychase 7y ago
Shameless ripoff of snapshooter.io https://twitter.com/MrSimonBennett/status/1207712795099385856?s=2 https://twitter.com/MrSimonBennett/status/120771279509938585...
- corinadalea 7y ago
  Even if the screenshots are real and not just an edited source page, the user interface + landing page seems totally different to me. To me looks like SnapShooter is really afraid of competition and thinks that the market must have only one product.
  - dorkley 7y ago
    Google cache shows its a rip off. I get snapshooter being afraid of competitions, it is a one-trick-pony from the looks of it. Competition is awesome, it forces people to adapt. Ripping off a product, and it's content is not competition, its theft.
lapnitnelav 7y ago
Totally meta but the ratio green to gray usernames is unusually high here.

24 points by mezuky 7y ago

Interesting product. My DigitalOcean droplets have only weekly backups. I will give it a try for creating daily snapshots.

mezuky 7y ago
Let me know if I can help with anything. Thanks!
iiCe89 7y ago
Your better off with https://snapshooter.io/ https://snapshooter.io/ imo never let me or my team down
- corinadalea 7y ago
  Thanks for the proposal, but I'm good paying less for more.
  - dorkley 7y ago
    As long as you're happy trusting someone who ripped off another persons business, and was then stupid enough to rip off their site content and forget to change the name. And then when they were caught, stole another companies privacy policy and again forgot to change the name. This copycat will last a month or two and then vanish. You'd have to think very little of your own website/business/server to trust someone like that. I don't really know snapshooter all that well (the one they ripped off) but just googling it I can see its got a bit more credibility, it looks like they're a digitalocean partner which alone speaks volumes.

bberenberg 7y ago

Does a snapshot mean that you're doing native DO snapshots? The throughput for these is terrible (1-4gb/min) and also had performance implications in our past tests.

mezuky 7y ago
Yes, native DO snapshots are used. I tested with droplets up to 100 GB in occupied disk size and the snapshot required over 1 hour to be ready. For volumes, the time is lower. Unfortunately, this is a limitation for most of the cloud providers.

chrsstrm 7y ago

You’re using the terms backup and snapshot interchangeably but they are not the same thing. Snapshots are images and require your droplet to be powered down. Which service are you providing?

mezuky 7y ago
Snapshots are used because they persist even after the droplet/volume was deleted and you pay per GB/month instead of 20% of the droplet price. For volumes, you only have the option to create a snapshot. The "backups" term is used mostly for SEO purposes. When a user wants backups for his droplet, probably for him is not important if the backup is considered by DO a "backup" or a "snapshot". The DigitalOcean backups are also images at the core because the point-in-time image is created in the same way. From the DO docs: 1. A snapshot of the live system is taken, creating a crash-consistent, point-in-time image. 2. The snapshot is backed up off-disk. 3. The snapshot is deleted once the backup is complete. Regarding the recommendation of powering of the droplet, in the future maybe there will be an option to choose if you want this before taking the snapshot. This will be useful for droplets with write-intensive operations. Thanks, Alex

kkwtfeliz 7y ago

Where are the "backups" being stored? Are they just snapshots sitting in my DO account? If so, I can just do this by myself with the DO API... if not, how are you downloading the snapshots? I don't recall if DO allows this right now.

dorkley 7y ago

Looks like you've just ripped off snapshooter.io tbh.

Jamesking56 7y ago

Is this essentially $15 / month to press 'Snapshot' in DigitalOcean or am I missing the point here?

DeanLJ 7y ago

I'm all for open competition but you should have chosen a different name, your choice is just sleazy IMHO. As dorkley said, a rip off of the original and best ... SnapShooter.io

stocktech 7y ago
This seems like unfair criticism. I'd say snapshooter and snapshotly are sufficiently different. If the websites were similar, I'd see your point, but snapshotly is different enough that's it a clear price competitor.
- dorkley 7y ago
  The moron ripped off the site content from snap shooter and even left in the company name. He absolutely deserves criticism. The guy is scum.

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reillychase 7y ago

Shameless ripoff of snapshooter.io https://twitter.com/MrSimonBennett/status/1207712795099385856?s=2 https://twitter.com/MrSimonBennett/status/120771279509938585...

corinadalea 7y ago
Even if the screenshots are real and not just an edited source page, the user interface + landing page seems totally different to me. To me looks like SnapShooter is really afraid of competition and thinks that the market must have only one product.
- dorkley 7y ago
  Google cache shows its a rip off. I get snapshooter being afraid of competitions, it is a one-trick-pony from the looks of it. Competition is awesome, it forces people to adapt. Ripping off a product, and it's content is not competition, its theft.

lapnitnelav 7y ago

Totally meta but the ratio green to gray usernames is unusually high here.