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If you have concerns with Hacker News moderation, please send them a message at hn@ycombinator.com. They'll see it faster, and it's better than polluting the si

by kick 7y ago

If you have concerns with Hacker News moderation, please send them a message at hn@ycombinator.com. They'll see it faster, and it's better than polluting the site with accusations. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email us and we'll look at the data. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Speaking as a person who's done as much, and definitely is no fan of Cliqz: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21718650 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21718650 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21724844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21724844 They're really responsive, and they're very proactive about these things.

thedaemon 7y ago
One must know what "astroturfing, shiling, brigading" are to follow that rule. As such, astroturfing is the labor in putting fake grass down. Shiling, I'm guessing is giving the money item, a shilling, to someone. Brigading, I guess is starting a brigade. My point is that making up, or using new words(not in the dictionary) and using them in a guideline without defining them, nullifies the rule to most of the populous. Also, dang is super responsive to HN comments that he finds incongruent with the rules. He'll be here shortly to chastise OP and me.
- kick 7y ago
  Astroturfing in the most famous English dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astroturfing https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astroturfing Brigading in the most famous English dictionary (see definition 2): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brigading https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brigading
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    Oxford English Dictionaries might like a word about your fame assertion... :)
  - dmos62 7y ago
    Merriam-Webster is a popular a publisher of American-English dictionaries: emphasis on American. It also had a significant role in shaping American-English as distinct from British-English. E.g. removal of the letter u in British-English words like colour. Or, the unsuccessful campaign to spell the word acre as aker.
    - toyg 7y ago
      Oxford has astroturfing too: https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/325483?rskey=aidQ7O&result=2&isAdvanced=false#eid https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/325483?rskey=aidQ7O&result=2&... Shilling does have a NorthAmerican connotation: https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/178128?rskey=UvAWn2&result=4#eid https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/178128?rskey=UvAWn2&result=4#...
    - kick 7y ago
      That's false. Webster is the dictionary that had a role in shaping American English in a distinct fashion. The quality of the work deteriorated when the Merriam brothers purchased it, and they changed the title from Webster's by the time they had begun compromising the value of English reform.
      - dmos62 7y ago
        You're right. I thought it was Webster that acquired Meriams' company.

by kick 7y ago

thedaemon 7y ago

One must know what "astroturfing, shiling, brigading" are to follow that rule. As such, astroturfing is the labor in putting fake grass down. Shiling, I'm guessing is giving the money item, a shilling, to someone. Brigading, I guess is starting a brigade. My point is that making up, or using new words(not in the dictionary) and using them in a guideline without defining them, nullifies the rule to most of the populous. Also, dang is super responsive to HN comments that he finds incongruent with the rules. He'll be here shortly to chastise OP and me.

kick 7y ago
Astroturfing in the most famous English dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astroturfing https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astroturfing Brigading in the most famous English dictionary (see definition 2): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brigading https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brigading
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  Oxford English Dictionaries might like a word about your fame assertion... :)
- dmos62 7y ago
  Merriam-Webster is a popular a publisher of American-English dictionaries: emphasis on American. It also had a significant role in shaping American-English as distinct from British-English. E.g. removal of the letter u in British-English words like colour. Or, the unsuccessful campaign to spell the word acre as aker.
  - toyg 7y ago
    Oxford has astroturfing too: https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/325483?rskey=aidQ7O&result=2&isAdvanced=false#eid https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/325483?rskey=aidQ7O&result=2&... Shilling does have a NorthAmerican connotation: https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/178128?rskey=UvAWn2&result=4#eid https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/178128?rskey=UvAWn2&result=4#...
  - kick 7y ago
    That's false. Webster is the dictionary that had a role in shaping American English in a distinct fashion. The quality of the work deteriorated when the Merriam brothers purchased it, and they changed the title from Webster's by the time they had begun compromising the value of English reform.
    - dmos62 7y ago
      You're right. I thought it was Webster that acquired Meriams' company.