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The proposal is to dissolve the CS department. According to the Dean, his "judgement call" places CS as "not a priority" for the future of UC. Therefore specifi

The proposal is to dissolve the CS department. According to the Dean, his "judgement call" places CS as "not a priority" for the future of UC. Therefore specific CS classes will no longer be taught. This effort is led by CS students. Clearly, the University of Cincinnati will not lose it's status. The accreditation, therefore, is related to the current College of Engineering, which was approved by the Ohio Board of Regents with the CS department. We (the CS students) do believe that a good engineering school requires a strong CS department. I guess this is not so with either of you...

rdtsc 16y ago
> We (the CS students) do believe that a good engineering school requires a strong CS department. I guess this is not so with either of you... I understand your frustration, I went through the process when they switched to the College of Engineering (I refused so I graduated from McMicken). I doubt they will simply kick you out, they will have to let you graduate from the program they admitted you to. They will probably stop receiving new freshmen into the program. You are right, I do not see it as a big deal. You end up with the same professors there. Just switching names and departments a couple of times doesn't really matter. What's his name Schmidt is still going to do Celestial Mechanics no matter what Computer department you put him in. That's the real problem. > We (the CS students) do believe that a good engineering school requires a strong CS department. Of course, because you are CS students. I am sure Nuclear Engineering students believe the University requires a strong Nuclear Engineering dept. -- it validates their choice and the huge investment of time and money. Back in the day I would have though the same thing (that's why I stayed in McMicken, I wanted to have CS on my diploma, looking back though, it didn't matter really). EDIT: As a side note. I think this all started with Zimpher. She is gone now, but it all started to go downhill with her. They built shops, stadiums, wasted money on crap while the govt. was subsidizing the student loans, increased tuition to astronomical proportions. While some colleges were printing tests in 7pt font, double-sided, because they didn't have money for paper. Look at this fucking shit: http://www.uc.edu/president/former_presidents/zimpher.html http://www.uc.edu/president/former_presidents/zimpher.html * $1.7 billion spent on stadiums and "Uptown Cincinnati". * "Established UC's new Center of City designed to facilitate innovative and productive partnerships that blah blah blah..." WTF does that even mean? I guess it means we wasted all the money ... Sorry, don't mind me I am getting old and jaded. You are doing a great thing by organizing your fellow students. Hopefully someone will listen to you. EDIT2: Also, don't forget UC is a public school, so you could try writing a petition to Columbus, it surely won't hurt. Especially if your parents are from Ohio and have been paying taxes there for the longest time.
- meaydinli 16y ago
  This might help answer some of the questions; Letter to UC President Williams by founder of Computer Sci program Jerry Paul -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16466720/PresidentLetter.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16466720/PresidentLetter.pdf

rdtsc 16y ago

> We (the CS students) do believe that a good engineering school requires a strong CS department. I guess this is not so with either of you... I understand your frustration, I went through the process when they switched to the College of Engineering (I refused so I graduated from McMicken). I doubt they will simply kick you out, they will have to let you graduate from the program they admitted you to. They will probably stop receiving new freshmen into the program. You are right, I do not see it as a big deal. You end up with the same professors there. Just switching names and departments a couple of times doesn't really matter. What's his name Schmidt is still going to do Celestial Mechanics no matter what Computer department you put him in. That's the real problem. > We (the CS students) do believe that a good engineering school requires a strong CS department. Of course, because you are CS students. I am sure Nuclear Engineering students believe the University requires a strong Nuclear Engineering dept. -- it validates their choice and the huge investment of time and money. Back in the day I would have though the same thing (that's why I stayed in McMicken, I wanted to have CS on my diploma, looking back though, it didn't matter really). EDIT: As a side note. I think this all started with Zimpher. She is gone now, but it all started to go downhill with her. They built shops, stadiums, wasted money on crap while the govt. was subsidizing the student loans, increased tuition to astronomical proportions. While some colleges were printing tests in 7pt font, double-sided, because they didn't have money for paper. Look at this fucking shit: http://www.uc.edu/president/former_presidents/zimpher.html http://www.uc.edu/president/former_presidents/zimpher.html * $1.7 billion spent on stadiums and "Uptown Cincinnati". * "Established UC's new Center of City designed to facilitate innovative and productive partnerships that blah blah blah..." WTF does that even mean? I guess it means we wasted all the money ... Sorry, don't mind me I am getting old and jaded. You are doing a great thing by organizing your fellow students. Hopefully someone will listen to you. EDIT2: Also, don't forget UC is a public school, so you could try writing a petition to Columbus, it surely won't hurt. Especially if your parents are from Ohio and have been paying taxes there for the longest time.

meaydinli 16y ago
This might help answer some of the questions; Letter to UC President Williams by founder of Computer Sci program Jerry Paul -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16466720/PresidentLetter.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16466720/PresidentLetter.pdf