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It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government post

It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government posts seen on threads about Chinese internment camps and the Social Credit System. There are plenty of disgusting comments to peruse here, though I'd like to highlight this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 > I don't really understand where the genocide is coming from. At the worst you will be deported back to your homeland. If your homeland is genociding you it's not India's problem. I'm really hoping that people who express such sickening views will be banned from HN.

owaislone 7y ago
Every time there is a thread about the Indian government doing something questionable, there are people here ready to justify it and defend the government.
- iamshs 7y ago
  I called out these pro-government accounts pretty heavily in a thread sometime back and my comments got flagged on basis of not providing references and calling their comments as propaganda. How much of references can you provide when you know the person is just sending you on a wild goose chase. And the comments are propaganda, repeating governmental lies. One of the comment declared openly, "I am a Hindu, I am a Nationalist, hence I am a Hindu nationalist" - which is a straight lift-off of Indian PM Modi's interview [1]. BTW Modi conducted 2002 Gujarat massacre and got banned from entering US until he became Indian PM. Read the Reuters interview from 2013 [1], and with remarkable clarity he lays down his religious fundamentalism on table. Now that he runs India, he is acting on these designs quite openly. [1] http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/07/12/interview-with-bjp-leader-narendra-modi/ http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/07/12/interview-with-bjp...
  - yorwba 7y ago
    HN doesn't prohibit people from being wrong or unquestioningly repeating government propaganda so long as they don't exclusively use HN for ideological battle and respect the other rules. So if you want an Xist to get banned, you don't need to provide references that they support X, but that they do so in a way that is against the rules (such as exclusively posting about X). Also, you shouldn't do that in the comments but by emailing hn@ycombinator.com with the relevant facts, so that the mods can decide on the correct action to take without publicly putting anyone on the spot.
    - iamshs 7y ago
      I mailed dang and he didn't agree with me and I respect that, since I agree with his assertion that I was being aggressive which fueled ideological battle even more. Some of the accounts that I called out are again in here repeating same governmental propaganda. Let's see if something can be done about them.
      - thewhitetulip 7y ago
        And you'll notice that they're new accounts. Probably the same person creating multiple accounts Best course of action is destroy them ideologically and let other sane people downvote them to hell
silentguy 7y ago
I don't think government IT cell people are lurking here. I believe the sickening comments are coming from real people who have fallen for Hindutva propaganda. It is sad that a section of educated Indian has such regressive views.
- kamaal 7y ago
  >>It is sad that a section of educated Indian has such regressive views. India has a very broken socio-political ecosystem. Deeply broken on religious/linguistic/caste and other affiliations. The problems compound with the shortage of resources. Every group feels they deserve to have access to resources more than others. Plus the contemporary politics is dominated by historical revisionism, guilt, inferiority complex and feelings of exacting retribution. This is not just with religion but even things like languages and caste too. The fact that economy got this far after 1990s is largely also due to lack of real competition(Post cold war most India's competitors were still recovering). My guess is things will be hard for India from here on. Its really a country with a horse carriages attempting to win a F1 race.
dang 7y ago
Pleae don't "highlight" flamewar comments that obviously break the site guidelines. That feeds them and encourages more like them. Flag them instead, as the site guidelines ask. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 7y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21822364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21822364 and marked it off-topic.

owaislone 7y ago

Every time there is a thread about the Indian government doing something questionable, there are people here ready to justify it and defend the government.

iamshs 7y ago
I called out these pro-government accounts pretty heavily in a thread sometime back and my comments got flagged on basis of not providing references and calling their comments as propaganda. How much of references can you provide when you know the person is just sending you on a wild goose chase. And the comments are propaganda, repeating governmental lies. One of the comment declared openly, "I am a Hindu, I am a Nationalist, hence I am a Hindu nationalist" - which is a straight lift-off of Indian PM Modi's interview [1]. BTW Modi conducted 2002 Gujarat massacre and got banned from entering US until he became Indian PM. Read the Reuters interview from 2013 [1], and with remarkable clarity he lays down his religious fundamentalism on table. Now that he runs India, he is acting on these designs quite openly. [1] http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/07/12/interview-with-bjp-leader-narendra-modi/ http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/07/12/interview-with-bjp...
- yorwba 7y ago
  HN doesn't prohibit people from being wrong or unquestioningly repeating government propaganda so long as they don't exclusively use HN for ideological battle and respect the other rules. So if you want an Xist to get banned, you don't need to provide references that they support X, but that they do so in a way that is against the rules (such as exclusively posting about X). Also, you shouldn't do that in the comments but by emailing hn@ycombinator.com with the relevant facts, so that the mods can decide on the correct action to take without publicly putting anyone on the spot.
  - iamshs 7y ago
    I mailed dang and he didn't agree with me and I respect that, since I agree with his assertion that I was being aggressive which fueled ideological battle even more. Some of the accounts that I called out are again in here repeating same governmental propaganda. Let's see if something can be done about them.
    - thewhitetulip 7y ago
      And you'll notice that they're new accounts. Probably the same person creating multiple accounts Best course of action is destroy them ideologically and let other sane people downvote them to hell

silentguy 7y ago

I don't think government IT cell people are lurking here. I believe the sickening comments are coming from real people who have fallen for Hindutva propaganda. It is sad that a section of educated Indian has such regressive views.

kamaal 7y ago
>>It is sad that a section of educated Indian has such regressive views. India has a very broken socio-political ecosystem. Deeply broken on religious/linguistic/caste and other affiliations. The problems compound with the shortage of resources. Every group feels they deserve to have access to resources more than others. Plus the contemporary politics is dominated by historical revisionism, guilt, inferiority complex and feelings of exacting retribution. This is not just with religion but even things like languages and caste too. The fact that economy got this far after 1990s is largely also due to lack of real competition(Post cold war most India's competitors were still recovering). My guess is things will be hard for India from here on. Its really a country with a horse carriages attempting to win a F1 race.

dang 7y ago

Pleae don't "highlight" flamewar comments that obviously break the site guidelines. That feeds them and encourages more like them. Flag them instead, as the site guidelines ask. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 7y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21822364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21822364 and marked it off-topic.