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Genocide is not like technical debt!!

quantummkv 7y ago
I don't really understand where the genocide is coming from. At the worst you will be deported back to your homeland. If your homeland is genociding you it's not India's problem.
- vijaybritto 7y ago
  Yeah Gujarat 2002 was in Pakistan right/??
  - quantummkv 7y ago
    Considering how you continue to bring up an issue that was disproved multiple times at every level (That too during Congress rule so you cannot accuse Modi of manipulating investigating agencies and courts), It might have been. Continuing to harp on an non-issue like this in public is the reason why the voters keep voting Modi in and the opposition out.
    - vijaybritto 7y ago
      cause Our courts never really rule for justice when muslims are in the receiving end. Time and time again. Gujarat riots, babar masjid and many more. This is a non issue for fascists but it is for the victims.
  - timbuck2 7y ago
    And you remember what started it right?? 60 innocent Hindus, mostly women and children - were burned alive by muslim rioting mob.
    - srean 7y ago
      Depends on which investigation one chooses to believe the one presided over by Modi shill or multiple independent ones that gave forensic evidence that the fire started inside and was likely an accident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning#Banerjee_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning#Banerjee_...
    - nl 7y ago
      Is your argument that collective punishment on the basis of religion is reasonable? I'm sure I can find some atrocity attributable to religion X too. Should everyone from religion X be punished?
- iicc 7y ago
  >If your homeland is genociding you it's not India's problem. It is India's 'Problem'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_political_asylum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_politic... >Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights#Adoption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human... India is a member of the United Nations and in addition voted 'in favour of the declaration'. Get some humanity.
  - quantummkv 7y ago
    > >Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." Yeah. They have the right to seek. And India has the right to reject. > Get some humanity. Oh I have humanity, you know. But my humanity gives first preference to my own country's citizens. Unfortunately, India's resources are already strained by it's own large population. I cannot in good conscience let more people into the country when the already present citizens are grappling with strained natural resources. Fortunately, many Muslim countries have the resources to take in the oppressed Muslims into their countries without issues. But for some reason they won't take them in. You should redirect your energies there.
    - dang 7y ago
      Please do not perpetuate flamewars on HN. You did a lot of that in this thread, and we don't want it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 7y ago
    We ban accounts for political flamewar and for personal attacks. Please don't do this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- RealityVoid 7y ago
  This reply is incredibly lacking in empathy. It's horrifying to regard genocide and death so nonchalantly.
  - thewhitetulip 7y ago
    That's the typical mentality of Modi supporters. This is the reason they're called Modi worshippers
  - vms20591 7y ago
    Exactly. People with such overly idealist mindset don't think through the fact that, what they consider to be a safe bubble around them, will eventually be shrunken by someone/some group, with even bigger mindset.
enugu 7y ago
Exactly, so it is a good thing that Hindus who have emigrated from an actual genocide(not a speculation) with scant notice in major media both in India and abroad, are finally getting a chance at citizenship Given the opposition, the CAA law might be struck down. The absurdity of much of this thread is that measures which help active victims of genocide are being opposed. The book Blood Telegram, by Gary Bass about a state department memo, documents one aspect of how this genocide was buried. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kissinger,_and_a_Forgotten_Genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kis...
- cafard 7y ago
  Weren't those primarily Muslims who were killed in the then East Pakistan? Anyway, that's who the state was was set up for.
  - enugu 7y ago
    Bengalis were attacked, but Hindus were specifically singled out by the Pakistan Army. Just look at the sources.

I don't really understand where the genocide is coming from. At the worst you will be deported back to your homeland. If your homeland is genociding you it's not India's problem.

vijaybritto 7y ago
Yeah Gujarat 2002 was in Pakistan right/??
- quantummkv 7y ago
  Considering how you continue to bring up an issue that was disproved multiple times at every level (That too during Congress rule so you cannot accuse Modi of manipulating investigating agencies and courts), It might have been. Continuing to harp on an non-issue like this in public is the reason why the voters keep voting Modi in and the opposition out.
  - vijaybritto 7y ago
    cause Our courts never really rule for justice when muslims are in the receiving end. Time and time again. Gujarat riots, babar masjid and many more. This is a non issue for fascists but it is for the victims.
- timbuck2 7y ago
  And you remember what started it right?? 60 innocent Hindus, mostly women and children - were burned alive by muslim rioting mob.
  - srean 7y ago
    Depends on which investigation one chooses to believe the one presided over by Modi shill or multiple independent ones that gave forensic evidence that the fire started inside and was likely an accident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning#Banerjee_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning#Banerjee_...
  - nl 7y ago
    Is your argument that collective punishment on the basis of religion is reasonable? I'm sure I can find some atrocity attributable to religion X too. Should everyone from religion X be punished?
iicc 7y ago
>If your homeland is genociding you it's not India's problem. It is India's 'Problem'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_political_asylum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_politic... >Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights#Adoption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human... India is a member of the United Nations and in addition voted 'in favour of the declaration'. Get some humanity.
- quantummkv 7y ago
  > >Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." Yeah. They have the right to seek. And India has the right to reject. > Get some humanity. Oh I have humanity, you know. But my humanity gives first preference to my own country's citizens. Unfortunately, India's resources are already strained by it's own large population. I cannot in good conscience let more people into the country when the already present citizens are grappling with strained natural resources. Fortunately, many Muslim countries have the resources to take in the oppressed Muslims into their countries without issues. But for some reason they won't take them in. You should redirect your energies there.
  - dang 7y ago
    Please do not perpetuate flamewars on HN. You did a lot of that in this thread, and we don't want it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 7y ago
  We ban accounts for political flamewar and for personal attacks. Please don't do this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
RealityVoid 7y ago
This reply is incredibly lacking in empathy. It's horrifying to regard genocide and death so nonchalantly.
- thewhitetulip 7y ago
  That's the typical mentality of Modi supporters. This is the reason they're called Modi worshippers
- vms20591 7y ago
  Exactly. People with such overly idealist mindset don't think through the fact that, what they consider to be a safe bubble around them, will eventually be shrunken by someone/some group, with even bigger mindset.

enugu 7y ago

Exactly, so it is a good thing that Hindus who have emigrated from an actual genocide(not a speculation) with scant notice in major media both in India and abroad, are finally getting a chance at citizenship Given the opposition, the CAA law might be struck down. The absurdity of much of this thread is that measures which help active victims of genocide are being opposed. The book Blood Telegram, by Gary Bass about a state department memo, documents one aspect of how this genocide was buried. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kissinger,_and_a_Forgotten_Genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kis...

cafard 7y ago
Weren't those primarily Muslims who were killed in the then East Pakistan? Anyway, that's who the state was was set up for.
- enugu 7y ago
  Bengalis were attacked, but Hindus were specifically singled out by the Pakistan Army. Just look at the sources.