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It’s “climate change”, not just global warming.

ben_w 7y ago
Although this is 100% true, saying that does come across as shifting the goalposts. Part of the problem is that a decade before I was born, enough newspapers breathlessly reported “scientists” “predicting” “a new ice age”. Despite the fact those headlines misrepresented the scientific consensus of the time so badly that it’s appropriate for me to put all those scare quotes in that sentence, the meme remains potent.
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- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  That seems to have been very specifically just in the US. The rest of the world did not breathlessly report a coming ice age. UK and Europe barely noticed. Here in the UK I can remember just two pieces about it, in the end of the news "silly stuff and wacky ideas" slot. Don't believe Horizon, Equinox or any of the others ever covered it, even though there was one or two episodes every series for outlier and controversial ideas, and I watched them religiously back then. I had a remaindered paperback I bought around 1980 about the coming dawn of a new ice age. Firmly in the realm of wacky conspiracy theory next to Chariot of the Gods, even in the late 70s.
  - ben_w 7y ago
    That’s ironic, given that I’m from the UK and it was my British teachers in my secondary school who first made me aware of the meme.
    - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
      Interesting, I wonder what sources they were relying on. I recall it as something of a silly minority idea of the time, that had its moment. And that it was just a moment -- far less of a moment than Chariot of the Gods that did get TV programmes and discussion off the back of its idiocy. I don't ever remember seeing it in the papers we got at home. Maybe it got exposure via the Daily Mail or similar lover of fake and dodgy news or outrage - never read those. It was only much, much later I heard it was taken far more seriously in the US, with pieces in media that should perhaps have known better, or checked sources...
himinlomax 7y ago
It's actually global warming, because the globe is warming _as a whole_.
dvh 7y ago
Call it global warming. If you call it climate change it means that you are admitting global warming is not real. Global warming is subset of climate change, it is perfectly ok to discuss global warming without discussing climate change.

Although this is 100% true, saying that does come across as shifting the goalposts. Part of the problem is that a decade before I was born, enough newspapers breathlessly reported “scientists” “predicting” “a new ice age”. Despite the fact those headlines misrepresented the scientific consensus of the time so badly that it’s appropriate for me to put all those scare quotes in that sentence, the meme remains potent.

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NeedMoreTea 7y ago
That seems to have been very specifically just in the US. The rest of the world did not breathlessly report a coming ice age. UK and Europe barely noticed. Here in the UK I can remember just two pieces about it, in the end of the news "silly stuff and wacky ideas" slot. Don't believe Horizon, Equinox or any of the others ever covered it, even though there was one or two episodes every series for outlier and controversial ideas, and I watched them religiously back then. I had a remaindered paperback I bought around 1980 about the coming dawn of a new ice age. Firmly in the realm of wacky conspiracy theory next to Chariot of the Gods, even in the late 70s.
- ben_w 7y ago
  That’s ironic, given that I’m from the UK and it was my British teachers in my secondary school who first made me aware of the meme.
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    Interesting, I wonder what sources they were relying on. I recall it as something of a silly minority idea of the time, that had its moment. And that it was just a moment -- far less of a moment than Chariot of the Gods that did get TV programmes and discussion off the back of its idiocy. I don't ever remember seeing it in the papers we got at home. Maybe it got exposure via the Daily Mail or similar lover of fake and dodgy news or outrage - never read those. It was only much, much later I heard it was taken far more seriously in the US, with pieces in media that should perhaps have known better, or checked sources...

himinlomax 7y ago

It's actually global warming, because the globe is warming _as a whole_.

dvh 7y ago

Call it global warming. If you call it climate change it means that you are admitting global warming is not real. Global warming is subset of climate change, it is perfectly ok to discuss global warming without discussing climate change.