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> By any measure she's not an engineer. Please explain why she's not an engineer; and please take care to include discussion of why anyone is an arbiter of the
by drewbug01 7y ago
> By any measure she's not an engineer.
Please explain why she's not an engineer; and please take care to include discussion of why anyone is an arbiter of the "engineer" title in a field which is largely unregulated and not credentialed.
Otherwise the most charitable reading of your comment is something like "ticmasta thinks security engineers are not real engineers," and the less charitable reading is something like "ticmasta claims this person is not an engineer because she is a woman," which is incredibly juvenile and misogynistic. It has no place on this forum.
- fargle 7y ago> in a field which is largely unregulated and not credentialed. That IS why (engineers are credentialed and regulated). And where you got misogynistic is a mystery - simply using someones pronoun of choice in conjunction with something negative isn't implying anything.
- drewbug01 7y agoNot software/devops/security engineers in the US, as I’m sure you’re aware. You and I can claim to be software “engineers” in the US and no one can reasonably tell us we’re wrong. And the domain of conversation is restricted to the US, because that’s where she worked. The misogyny comes from the fact that this tends to only come up whenever a woman engineer is in the news. Nobody comments on HN threads saying “but he isn’t even an engineer”.
- Terretta 7y agoThese are not equivalents: Scripter -> Coder -> Developer -> Software Engineer
- KirinDave 7y agoBut she is a credentialed security engineer, so I guess you agree the criticism that she's not a qualified engineer is wrong.