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> The stopwatch consistently proves mousing is faster than keyboarding. Interesting. I wonder did anyone conducted a recent research. Keyboards stayed the sam

> The stopwatch consistently proves mousing is faster than keyboarding. Interesting. I wonder did anyone conducted a recent research. Keyboards stayed the same over all these years while mice progressed a lot, modern ones have many thousands of DPI and deliver up to 1KHz of samples. This makes mice work much better in comparison. Modern displays have much higher resolutions and sizes, a 4k 27” display, even scaled to 150% DPI, contains much more stuff than 9” CRT of 40 years old Apple computers. This makes mice work much worse in comparison. I wonder which of these 2 trends wins.

news_to_me 7y ago
I have a Mac Plus at home, and the smoothness of the mouse basically feels the same as my magic mouse. I do notice a bit of difference due to the tracking ball vs the magic mouse's laser, but it doesn't seem like the mouse sample rate matters much. The screen, on the other hand, is much smaller and therefore faster to navigate by mouse. The top menu bar, in particular, doesn't feel like a chore to reach for like it does in modern macOS.
- toast0 7y ago
  > The top menu bar, in particular, doesn't feel like a chore to reach for like it does in modern macOS. No multimonitor on Mac plus either. Nothing about a menu on one screen and the thing it controls on another makes much sense :(
dmitriid 7y ago
> This makes mice work much worse in comparison. My experience is mostly with Macs, but I guess other OSes have all the similar things. First, physical size matters. A button on a 4k screen will probably be a similar physical size as a button on a 9" CRT (or even bigger), so targeting is usually not an issue (unless there are glitches in scaling or you don't go for Retina's 2x scaling). Second, mouse movement is calculated based on speed. If you drag the mouse quickly, the pointer will travel a greater distance for the same mouse movement than a slow drag. This helps move the mouse quickly and then adjust position. Modern mice are much more precise than old mice. The high resoltion screen makes things more readable. All in all My guess is that the situation is actually better for mouse users than, say, 15-20 years ago.
- def_true_false 7y ago
  > If you drag the mouse quickly, the pointer will travel a greater distance for the same mouse movement than a slow drag. This helps move the mouse quickly and then adjust position. IME, mouse acceleration is one of the bigger problems for people who rarely interact with computers. Not sure why it's turned on by default so often.
  - setpatchaddress 7y ago
    Have you ever used a computer with no or bad mouse acceleration? (If you’re a longtime Mac user, you probably have not.) It’s really unpleasant. It’s one of the things the Mac got right really early on.
    - gsich 7y ago
      All the time. It's great.

news_to_me 7y ago

I have a Mac Plus at home, and the smoothness of the mouse basically feels the same as my magic mouse. I do notice a bit of difference due to the tracking ball vs the magic mouse's laser, but it doesn't seem like the mouse sample rate matters much. The screen, on the other hand, is much smaller and therefore faster to navigate by mouse. The top menu bar, in particular, doesn't feel like a chore to reach for like it does in modern macOS.

toast0 7y ago
> The top menu bar, in particular, doesn't feel like a chore to reach for like it does in modern macOS. No multimonitor on Mac plus either. Nothing about a menu on one screen and the thing it controls on another makes much sense :(

dmitriid 7y ago

> This makes mice work much worse in comparison. My experience is mostly with Macs, but I guess other OSes have all the similar things. First, physical size matters. A button on a 4k screen will probably be a similar physical size as a button on a 9" CRT (or even bigger), so targeting is usually not an issue (unless there are glitches in scaling or you don't go for Retina's 2x scaling). Second, mouse movement is calculated based on speed. If you drag the mouse quickly, the pointer will travel a greater distance for the same mouse movement than a slow drag. This helps move the mouse quickly and then adjust position. Modern mice are much more precise than old mice. The high resoltion screen makes things more readable. All in all My guess is that the situation is actually better for mouse users than, say, 15-20 years ago.

def_true_false 7y ago
> If you drag the mouse quickly, the pointer will travel a greater distance for the same mouse movement than a slow drag. This helps move the mouse quickly and then adjust position. IME, mouse acceleration is one of the bigger problems for people who rarely interact with computers. Not sure why it's turned on by default so often.
- setpatchaddress 7y ago
  Have you ever used a computer with no or bad mouse acceleration? (If you’re a longtime Mac user, you probably have not.) It’s really unpleasant. It’s one of the things the Mac got right really early on.
  - gsich 7y ago
    All the time. It's great.