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> With no competition, companies like Amazon amazon has only got ~5% of the US retail market. this ongoing meme that they've got no competition is surreal.

Accujack 7y ago
Name another online retailer that's bigger/better known. You can't compare them to the entire retail market. If anything, their competition is Wal-Mart's online service, or Ebay.
- sigstoat 7y ago
  > You can't compare them to the entire retail market. sure i can. i do every time i buy something at my grocery store, or local retailers, that i could've gotten from amazon.
- dsl 7y ago
  > Name another online retailer that's bigger/better known. You literally named two. My father knows how to do only two things on his computer - check his email, and buy stuff on eBay. There is a "Walmart.com" desk and in-store signage in 5,000+ physical stores.
  - laughinghan 7y ago
    > You literally named two. Neither of those are bigger, in fact they're dramatically smaller, Amazon has 49.1% of the online retail market to eBay's 6.6% and Walmart's 3.7%, according to: https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-commerce-market-is-now-49-or-5-of-all-retail-spend/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-...
sharkmerry 7y ago
All retail includes B+M stores no? Not necessarily a fair comparison. Same article says they control 49% of US E-commerce. https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-commerce-market-is-now-49-or-5-of-all-retail-spend/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-...
- lonelappde 7y ago
  What does delivery method matter? What I care about is obtaining a product. Segment by non-substitutible category (book vs electronics, etc) but not delivery method.
WhatIsDukkha 7y ago
Yet 49% of the US ONLINE market share...so you just are moving goal posts so that you can feel that everyone else is confused about "not a problem"?
- ben509 7y ago
  > This is what happens when regulators don't promote a fair marketplace. > Because Amazon has out priced or out delivered many local stores, we don't have those choices any more. Original post referred to the marketplace in general, and even posited that Amazon has "out priced" local stores, so the goalposts were set to reference the market in general. You're the one moving them.
  - Accujack 7y ago
    >Original post referred to the marketplace in general I was obviously talking about the major marketplace associated with Amazon, IE online ordering as opposed to the entire retail market.
tozeur 7y ago
That’s like saying “Boeing only has 10% of the transportation industry”. I believe you’re reciting the Benedict Evans pseudo-contrarian standpoint that Amazon has plenty competition, when in reality we all know it doesn’t in the online space.
- sigstoat 7y ago
  > when in reality we all know it doesn’t in the online space yeah, Sears, keep telling yourself that online is a different market.

Accujack 7y ago

Name another online retailer that's bigger/better known. You can't compare them to the entire retail market. If anything, their competition is Wal-Mart's online service, or Ebay.

sigstoat 7y ago
> You can't compare them to the entire retail market. sure i can. i do every time i buy something at my grocery store, or local retailers, that i could've gotten from amazon.
dsl 7y ago
> Name another online retailer that's bigger/better known. You literally named two. My father knows how to do only two things on his computer - check his email, and buy stuff on eBay. There is a "Walmart.com" desk and in-store signage in 5,000+ physical stores.
- laughinghan 7y ago
  > You literally named two. Neither of those are bigger, in fact they're dramatically smaller, Amazon has 49.1% of the online retail market to eBay's 6.6% and Walmart's 3.7%, according to: https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-commerce-market-is-now-49-or-5-of-all-retail-spend/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-...

sharkmerry 7y ago

All retail includes B+M stores no? Not necessarily a fair comparison. Same article says they control 49% of US E-commerce. https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-commerce-market-is-now-49-or-5-of-all-retail-spend/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/13/amazons-share-of-the-us-e-...

lonelappde 7y ago
What does delivery method matter? What I care about is obtaining a product. Segment by non-substitutible category (book vs electronics, etc) but not delivery method.

WhatIsDukkha 7y ago

Yet 49% of the US ONLINE market share...so you just are moving goal posts so that you can feel that everyone else is confused about "not a problem"?

ben509 7y ago
> This is what happens when regulators don't promote a fair marketplace. > Because Amazon has out priced or out delivered many local stores, we don't have those choices any more. Original post referred to the marketplace in general, and even posited that Amazon has "out priced" local stores, so the goalposts were set to reference the market in general. You're the one moving them.
- Accujack 7y ago
  >Original post referred to the marketplace in general I was obviously talking about the major marketplace associated with Amazon, IE online ordering as opposed to the entire retail market.

tozeur 7y ago

That’s like saying “Boeing only has 10% of the transportation industry”. I believe you’re reciting the Benedict Evans pseudo-contrarian standpoint that Amazon has plenty competition, when in reality we all know it doesn’t in the online space.

sigstoat 7y ago
> when in reality we all know it doesn’t in the online space yeah, Sears, keep telling yourself that online is a different market.