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Stadia would probably crumble alongside GCP by necessity too, right?
by throwawayhhakdl 7y ago
Stadia would probably crumble alongside GCP by necessity too, right?
- sylens 7y agoStadia is a brute force attempt to grow GCP revenue
- mikepurvis 7y agoThe Stadia pro tier fee is just $9.99/mo. The GPU and CPU you could consume playing a AAA game on that (yes, even on the purported "medium" settings) for just a few hours a day surely far exceeds what it could be sold for wholesale.
- sylens 7y agounless all those compute resources are just sitting idle anyway, so why not get something for them, even at a (deep) loss
- throwawayhhakdl 7y agoBecause usage degrades hardware?
- shantly 7y agoDon't forget that they value new ways of spying on users at a non-zero dollar amount, and probably intended to slap ads all over the interface (maybe—maybe—not the games themselves) to make up the difference, or at least were holding that possibility in reserve in case it was needed or they just wanted to kick returns up a notch later (I'd be shocked if it didn't come up in any "decks" used to sell the project internally).
- mikepurvis 7y agoFair, and that was certainly the YouTube model— years of free video hosting to saturate the market, now preroll and interstitials everywhere with "YouTube Premium" just a click away.
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- GhostVII 7y agoThey don't have to match what it would be sold for wholesale though, just need to match the marginal cost. A graphics card that can run a AAA game is less than $500, so I don't think they are losing much on $9.99 a month. That's over $100 a year, and if each users plays 3 hours a day you can have 8 users using the same hardware at different times. Now I don't think they are using consumer hardware, and there are other costs as well, but it seems realistic that they are making money off of it.
- nikanj 7y agoThat's assuming people play games in well-defined shifts. I find it more likely to have 8 users play between 8pm and 11pm and zero users for the rest of the day.
- mikepurvis 7y agoSure, but if they can spot-price other loads on them the rest of the time, I could see it working out.
- ric2b 7y agoBut they don't, that's the point.
- novok 7y agoTime zones are a thing.
- foobiekr 7y agoGames are latency sensitive and thus region sensitive. Multiplexing opportunities here are poor. Stadia is a terrible idea business-wise as Google has defined it.
- ElonMuskrat 7y agoI'm on the fence on Stadia - compute hardware prices keep dropping like a rock. What if we see viable $200 gaming rigs in 10 years? But I digress Google can utilize dark GPU hardware for numerous tasks. For example, YouTube video transcoding, ML, and Cloud batch processing.
- teachrdan 7y agoDon't forget that they're selling the games, too--and some Stadia games are up to $10 more (!) than their non-Stadia counterparts. (Incidentally, and you lose the game if you cancel your Stadia subscription.)
- echelon 7y ago> (Incidentally, and you lose the game if you cancel your Stadia subscription.) What. The. Fuck. First, they took our physical games and media away. Then they made us subscribe. Now they take away everything when we stop paying for our subscriptions? I can't even conceive of what the next step will be -- will they charge us for having memories of their IP? We need to reduce copyright terms and kill this cancer of IP hoarding. The rent-seekers are taking ownership away.
- itp 7y agoYou are reacting to a factually incorrect statement. You do not lose access to games you paid for if your Pro subscription is canceled.
- myko 7y ago> Now they take away everything when we stop paying for our subscriptions? They take away the games you claimed as a Pro subscriber - similar to how PS+ works. If you claim a game on PS+ and quit PS+, you lose those games. If you buy the game you can keep it and still play it even after you're done subscribing.
- itp 7y ago> (Incidentally, and you lose the game if you cancel your Stadia subscription.) That is a factually incorrect statement. You lose access to any games you claimed for free as a benefit of your Stadia Pro membership if you cancel your membership; you regain access to those games if you renew, but you will not gain access to games that were offered for free during any interval where you were not a subscriber. You retain access to any game you paid for, _even_ if you paid a discounted rate as a result of being a Stadia Pro member, even if your subscription is canceled.
- luckydata 7y agoit's more of a forcing function than anything else.
- seriesf 7y agoStadia runs on the edge, not in their cloud.
- tanilama 7y agoBy this strategy, which disregard customer confidence completely, considering that Stadia isn't exactly well received, I seriously doubt I will put my money on it getting anywhere.
- juped 7y agoStadia will be gone long before 2023.
- partiallypro 7y agoYou're not wrong
- ProAm 7y agoStadia was dead before it went live.