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Microsoft and Amazon don't even need to do anything. Knowing that there might only be 3 years of service remaining, I definitely won't use Google Cloud and I'll

Microsoft and Amazon don't even need to do anything. Knowing that there might only be 3 years of service remaining, I definitely won't use Google Cloud and I'll tell everyone I know not to use it too.

basch 7y ago
Microsoft Azure: The cloud service that wont abruptly close out of nowhere with no transition plan leaving you stranded, and a service that actually comes with that thing you call when you need help and support. The marketing writes itself.
- Jasper_ 7y ago
  They already wrote that marketing 8 years ago. Only gets more and more true over the years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4KmlcQr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4KmlcQr4
  - basch 7y ago
    Half of that criticisms applies to Microsoft now. :/
  - vosper 7y ago
    I enjoyed that more than I thought I would :)
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  Mostly all you need to know about Microsoft's support lifecycle is that my Windows Mobile phone just got a security patch on Patch Tuesday, and apparently Microsoft also extended its support an extra month into January just because. Microsoft platforms most people think are long dead and buried still get maintenance updates years later.
  - chupa-chups 7y ago
    Like the Microsoft Azure "German Cloud", assured to be GDPR compliant. We spent quite some time and money to migrate from AWS to that solution in 2017. Guess what? It has been shut down by the end of 2019. We're back on AWS now. We were (I guess) not an insignificant customer, paying around 8k €/month, with the prospect of growing significantly (which has happened in the mean time, but on AWS).
    - paulddraper 7y ago
      ?? They still have the GDPR-compliant Frankfurt and Berlin datacenters. [1] I've not see any announcement about closing them. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/global-infrastructure/germany/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/global-infrastructure/germ...
      - chupa-chups 7y ago
        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/germany/germany-welcome https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/germany/germany-welco... Apparently they reversed their decision again, which kind of underlines what I said :)
        paulddraper 7y ago
        > Existing customers can continue to use the current cloud services available today, which we’ll maintain with necessary security updates. No one said MS developed new services for years and years and years; they said they supported existing offerings for a long time, which they do.
        chupa-chups 7y ago
        https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-discontinuing-the-german-data-trustee-model/ https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-discontinuing-the-germa... https://hackernoon.com/microsoft-announces-the-end-of-the-germany-cloud-431bbe407b94 https://hackernoon.com/microsoft-announces-the-end-of-the-ge... https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-docs/issues/14944 https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-docs/issues/14944 If you still don't believe me, please provide your public key or email address so I can publish a response. Maybe it doesn't stand out: Microsoft Germany delivered the promise that US authorities are technically unable to access stored data. The "new" data centers were without that promise, making the USP obsolete.
eloff 7y ago
They just lost my business. I was planning to use them over AWS for a new project. Now that I know they might cancel it like the other Google experiments, I'm not going to risk that investment. I'll stick with AWS. They have a great platform, but I think they've just lost the war by the top brass waffling on this. That's a shame. There could have been a lot of money in third place, and as long as you're in the game there is a non zero probability of moving up the ladder.

basch 7y ago

Microsoft Azure: The cloud service that wont abruptly close out of nowhere with no transition plan leaving you stranded, and a service that actually comes with that thing you call when you need help and support. The marketing writes itself.

Jasper_ 7y ago
They already wrote that marketing 8 years ago. Only gets more and more true over the years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4KmlcQr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4KmlcQr4
- basch 7y ago
  Half of that criticisms applies to Microsoft now. :/
- vosper 7y ago
  I enjoyed that more than I thought I would :)
ocdtrekkie 7y ago
Mostly all you need to know about Microsoft's support lifecycle is that my Windows Mobile phone just got a security patch on Patch Tuesday, and apparently Microsoft also extended its support an extra month into January just because. Microsoft platforms most people think are long dead and buried still get maintenance updates years later.
- chupa-chups 7y ago
  Like the Microsoft Azure "German Cloud", assured to be GDPR compliant. We spent quite some time and money to migrate from AWS to that solution in 2017. Guess what? It has been shut down by the end of 2019. We're back on AWS now. We were (I guess) not an insignificant customer, paying around 8k €/month, with the prospect of growing significantly (which has happened in the mean time, but on AWS).
  - paulddraper 7y ago
    ?? They still have the GDPR-compliant Frankfurt and Berlin datacenters. [1] I've not see any announcement about closing them. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/global-infrastructure/germany/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/global-infrastructure/germ...
    - chupa-chups 7y ago
      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/germany/germany-welcome https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/germany/germany-welco... Apparently they reversed their decision again, which kind of underlines what I said :)
      - paulddraper 7y ago
        > Existing customers can continue to use the current cloud services available today, which we’ll maintain with necessary security updates. No one said MS developed new services for years and years and years; they said they supported existing offerings for a long time, which they do.
        chupa-chups 7y ago
        https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-discontinuing-the-german-data-trustee-model/ https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-discontinuing-the-germa... https://hackernoon.com/microsoft-announces-the-end-of-the-germany-cloud-431bbe407b94 https://hackernoon.com/microsoft-announces-the-end-of-the-ge... https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-docs/issues/14944 https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-docs/issues/14944 If you still don't believe me, please provide your public key or email address so I can publish a response. Maybe it doesn't stand out: Microsoft Germany delivered the promise that US authorities are technically unable to access stored data. The "new" data centers were without that promise, making the USP obsolete.

eloff 7y ago

They just lost my business. I was planning to use them over AWS for a new project. Now that I know they might cancel it like the other Google experiments, I'm not going to risk that investment. I'll stick with AWS. They have a great platform, but I think they've just lost the war by the top brass waffling on this. That's a shame. There could have been a lot of money in third place, and as long as you're in the game there is a non zero probability of moving up the ladder.