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Point to remember- they are number 4. And beating a fast rising azure is going to be close to impossible.

by googlebigdream 7y ago

nemothekid 7y ago
Who's number 3? Who am I missing?
- hwbehrens 7y ago
  Gartner ranked Aliyun as the third largest provider in 1Q19.
  - benburleson 7y ago
    As a fulltime web dev, I had a guess of who's cloud that was, but had to look the name up. They may have numbers due to Chinese usage, but no Western company is going to use Chinese hosting, ever.
  - johnbellone 7y ago
    Gartner isn't a source that I'd use as a basis for it (or honestly, anything). I would take a look at annual revenue for all of these businesses.
  - cnlwsu 7y ago
    Gartner ranks companies by how much they pay Gartner for "advisors"
- cthalupa 7y ago
  Different articles and sources give different numbers, so don't take this as gospel, but: IBM's *-as-a-service ARR is larger than Google Cloud's. Oracle claims theirs is too, but my understanding is that they roll a lot of their licensing costs into the same reporting, so it's hard to tell for sure.
- NathanKP 7y ago
  From what I have seen Alibaba cloud is #3. Don't forget that China is a huge market, and it is very hard for Western companies to be successful there. Alibaba has China government backing and that relationship is allowing them a lot of access in China
  - iudqnolq 7y ago
    For example, AWS China and Azure Operated by 21Vianet (official name of Azure China) are operated independently by Chinese companies, and have incomplete integrations with the rest of their services, because of how hard Chinese govt compliance is. And GCP only has a location in Hong Kong, which means Chinese users can mostly access it but it's unreliable https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/migration/issues/649 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/migration/issues/649 This gives Alibaba a huge advantage domestically.
- mensetmanusman 7y ago
  Ali, Funny that China has a new law allowing them access to any data stored there, so it may stick to operating only in China...
freehunter 7y ago
It really depends on how you split the numbers. It's kind of like saying SQL and Excel are the most popular programming languages... yeah, but they've captured a far different market than most people would consider to be the "programming" field. A service that only exists in China to serve the Chinese audience may be bigger than worldwide services that serve worldwide audiences, but it's kind of irrelevant if you're not a Chinese company doing business exclusively in China.

Point to remember- they are number 4. And beating a fast rising azure is going to be close to impossible.

nemothekid 7y ago

Who's number 3? Who am I missing?

hwbehrens 7y ago
Gartner ranked Aliyun as the third largest provider in 1Q19.
- benburleson 7y ago
  As a fulltime web dev, I had a guess of who's cloud that was, but had to look the name up. They may have numbers due to Chinese usage, but no Western company is going to use Chinese hosting, ever.
- johnbellone 7y ago
  Gartner isn't a source that I'd use as a basis for it (or honestly, anything). I would take a look at annual revenue for all of these businesses.
- cnlwsu 7y ago
  Gartner ranks companies by how much they pay Gartner for "advisors"
cthalupa 7y ago
Different articles and sources give different numbers, so don't take this as gospel, but: IBM's *-as-a-service ARR is larger than Google Cloud's. Oracle claims theirs is too, but my understanding is that they roll a lot of their licensing costs into the same reporting, so it's hard to tell for sure.
NathanKP 7y ago
From what I have seen Alibaba cloud is #3. Don't forget that China is a huge market, and it is very hard for Western companies to be successful there. Alibaba has China government backing and that relationship is allowing them a lot of access in China
- iudqnolq 7y ago
  For example, AWS China and Azure Operated by 21Vianet (official name of Azure China) are operated independently by Chinese companies, and have incomplete integrations with the rest of their services, because of how hard Chinese govt compliance is. And GCP only has a location in Hong Kong, which means Chinese users can mostly access it but it's unreliable https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/migration/issues/649 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/migration/issues/649 This gives Alibaba a huge advantage domestically.
mensetmanusman 7y ago
Ali, Funny that China has a new law allowing them access to any data stored there, so it may stick to operating only in China...

freehunter 7y ago

It really depends on how you split the numbers. It's kind of like saying SQL and Excel are the most popular programming languages... yeah, but they've captured a far different market than most people would consider to be the "programming" field. A service that only exists in China to serve the Chinese audience may be bigger than worldwide services that serve worldwide audiences, but it's kind of irrelevant if you're not a Chinese company doing business exclusively in China.