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except when the treatments are only for those who have a lot money or expensive insurances

larrik 7y ago
That's how a lot of stuff starts, and then the price goes down while the kinks are worked out. I don't really know what the alternative is here...
- thatfrenchguy 7y ago
  > and then the price goes down US health insurance costs are up 20% since last year.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    The US system's drug payment policies being broken is somewhat independent of the net utility of developing new drugs for the world at large.
  - themaninthedark 7y ago
    By how much did the health insurance industry and hospital administration grow?
- 1024core 7y ago
  > That's how a lot of stuff starts, and then the price goes down while the kinks are worked out. By that logic, Insulin would be dirt cheap today, right? Hint: it is not.
  - evandijk70 7y ago
    Compared to more recent drugs, it is
  - bananabreakfast 7y ago
    Hint: being cynical does not help your argument and makes you sound like an asshole
    - 1024core 7y ago
      I was pointing out an obvious counter-example to their point. Telling the truth is not being "cynical".
  - simplyinfinity 7y ago
    My grandmother is on insulin which the Bulgarian government mostly pays for, the rest is equal to about 50 euro/month or 55 usd. So it's practically free for us. The US has f-ed up healthcare. Change that.
  - themaninthedark 7y ago
    What is considered dirt cheap? One kind of insulin can be bought for ~$25 at Walmart. Now, this means that you have to monitor you sugar levels, have a restrictive diet, etc. All things that are very restrictive but better than dying that people did when insulin treatment was first being developed. Now we have newer, reformulated insulin that allows for a more permissive lifestyle. That is expensive. Should the newer stuff be cheaper? It certainly allows for a greater QOL and took time and money to research.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
Vote accordingly.
- amanaplanacanal 7y ago
  Exactly. It’s not set in stone that the current health insurance system will last forever.
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evandijk70 7y ago
Even if that's the case (it is not in countries that do not have a stupid insurance system like the US) it is better than no treatment at all

That's how a lot of stuff starts, and then the price goes down while the kinks are worked out. I don't really know what the alternative is here...

thatfrenchguy 7y ago
> and then the price goes down US health insurance costs are up 20% since last year.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  The US system's drug payment policies being broken is somewhat independent of the net utility of developing new drugs for the world at large.
- themaninthedark 7y ago
  By how much did the health insurance industry and hospital administration grow?
1024core 7y ago
> That's how a lot of stuff starts, and then the price goes down while the kinks are worked out. By that logic, Insulin would be dirt cheap today, right? Hint: it is not.
- evandijk70 7y ago
  Compared to more recent drugs, it is
- bananabreakfast 7y ago
  Hint: being cynical does not help your argument and makes you sound like an asshole
  - 1024core 7y ago
    I was pointing out an obvious counter-example to their point. Telling the truth is not being "cynical".
- simplyinfinity 7y ago
  My grandmother is on insulin which the Bulgarian government mostly pays for, the rest is equal to about 50 euro/month or 55 usd. So it's practically free for us. The US has f-ed up healthcare. Change that.
- themaninthedark 7y ago
  What is considered dirt cheap? One kind of insulin can be bought for ~$25 at Walmart. Now, this means that you have to monitor you sugar levels, have a restrictive diet, etc. All things that are very restrictive but better than dying that people did when insulin treatment was first being developed. Now we have newer, reformulated insulin that allows for a more permissive lifestyle. That is expensive. Should the newer stuff be cheaper? It certainly allows for a greater QOL and took time and money to research.

toomuchtodo 7y ago

Vote accordingly.

amanaplanacanal 7y ago
Exactly. It’s not set in stone that the current health insurance system will last forever.
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evandijk70 7y ago

Even if that's the case (it is not in countries that do not have a stupid insurance system like the US) it is better than no treatment at all