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It's quite a stretch to call this a political issue.

• baud147258 7y ago
  I don't know about you, but "Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities." seems pretty political to me. Personally I think that modifying a work tool to achieve political goals is wrong.
  • CharlesColeman 7y ago
    > I don't know about you, but "Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities." seems pretty political to me. It's about as political as informing someone they have a right to be paid the minimum wage.
    • scarface74 7y ago
      Sure you have the right to say it. But you can’t follow me to the bathroom stall and keep telling me. She didn’t post it to a common area. She took it upon herself to plaster it on everyone’s computer screen.
      • MrLeap 7y ago
        "But you can’t follow me to the bathroom stall and keep telling me." "plaster it on everyone's screen" did you read the same article I did? The alert was triggered off a single consultancy's site. I really doubt it was a common hang out spot.
        • scarface74 7y ago
          She was using a security tool to spread her message. Does that seem appropriate to you?
          • CharlesColeman 7y ago
            > She was using a security tool to spread her message. Does that seem appropriate to you? Yes, of course. Apparently this "security tool" exists to notify Googlers of policy, and the notification just linked to a Google policy notice with a warning not to violate it. This is apparently the actual notification that was displayed: https://miro.medium.com/max/2000/0*1BTVYLTvuHiJVvp_.jpg https://miro.medium.com/max/2000/0*1BTVYLTvuHiJVvp_.jpg > Do not violate go/nlrbnotice. Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities.
            • scarface74 7y ago
              Yes email exists to notify employees too but just because I can email the entire company doesn’t mean that I should take it upon myself to notify them about anything that’s not in my job description.
          • calcifer 7y ago
            You keep moving the goalposts every time someone refutes one of your points. > Does that seem appropriate to you? Yes. It's a tool for showing notifications related to the page being visited. Not to mention the whole thing is appropriate on moral grounds, regardless of any technicality.
            • scarface74 7y ago
              So that means she should be able to inject her opinion on any site that she doesn’t like?
              • CharlesColeman 7y ago
                > So that means she should be able to inject her opinion on any site that she doesn’t like? Just to be clear: her "opinion" is "don't take actions that would cause the company to break federal labor law."
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      • sebii 7y ago
        According to her Medium post it only appears on two websites. > I created a little notification, only a few lines of code, that pops up in the corner of the browser whenever my coworkers visited the union busters’ website or the community guidelines policy. The notification said: “Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities.” https://medium.com/@ksspiers/google-fires-another-worker-for-exercising-her-rights-and-protecting-coworkers-from-illegal-b86c41ef91b9 https://medium.com/@ksspiers/google-fires-another-worker-for...
        • scarface74 7y ago
          And how does that still not show that she over reached her responsibility?
      • MiroF 7y ago
        > She took it upon herself to plaster it on everyone’s computer screen. Don't think that is true from the story, if you read it.
    • PunchTornado 7y ago
      rights are inherently political. they vary by state and country, they are proposed and opposed in elections by politicians. they are debatable etc.
• scarface74 7y ago
  Unionization is definitely a political issue.
  • diffeomorphism 7y ago
    In the US. Decidedly not in other countries, where it is just something you do.
    • thu2111 7y ago
      That's certainly not the case, not even close. Unions are regulated by law almost everywhere which makes them an inherently political issue. But if you look at, say, the UK, then unions actually fund one of the major political parties and have tremendous influence over it. Unions have in the past managed to topple elected governments. Beating the unions was Margaret Thatcher's flagship effort when she was first elected. And union membership has been in steady decline. It's certainly not a USA specific thing. Union/management wars in the UK got very nasty indeed.
  • calcifer 7y ago
    She didn't tell them join a union. All she did was informing people that they have a legal right to organize.