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If you think ticketing homeless people will solve the homelessness problem, then you are the reason homelessness is still a problem. Articles like this make me

If you think ticketing homeless people will solve the homelessness problem, then you are the reason homelessness is still a problem. Articles like this make me sad. Humanity can do better. What's wrong with us?

WilliamEdward 7y ago
What? The article said the Supreme Court denied the idea of homelessness ticketing. also from the article: "The homeless and their advocates say ticketing homeless people does nothing to solve the bigger housing crisis."
- DailyHN 7y ago
  Yes, I agree with the outcome of the article. The sad thing is that anyone could ever imagine ticketing(monetary fines) as a good idea to control homelessness. That's kicking someone when they're already down. Very sad.
DailyHN 7y ago
It's also sad to see that my city spends extra money to make sure that every bench is designed so that sleeping on it is uncomfortable, if not impossible.
trentnix 7y ago
While I certainly hope humanity 'can do better', I haven't seen any strategies that are all that encouraging. Those that commit more resources end up with more homelessness and more of all the side effects that come with it: crime, filth, disease, and drugs. I greatly sympathize with anyone that finds themselves homeless. But I also don't want to live or raise my kids anywhere homelessness is rampant. That means I'm good with my local authorities doing whatever it takes to discourage homelessness in my area. What do you recommend?
- DailyHN 7y ago
  Recommendation: Raise your kids around homelessness. Why? Because then they will learn to have compassion for these people. And maybe then, with compassion that doesn't come from a sheltered life, one will use their privileged education and resources to execute an innovative solution successfully.
  - RobertRoberts 7y ago
    I taught my kids compassion about homeless people. (I have experience with it) But I don't want them going near crazy and/or drug addicts that will rape or rob them. Street smarts are just as important as compassion.
RobertRoberts 7y ago
> ...then you are the reason homelessness is still a problem... That comes across as hyperbole. People commenting on the internet are not the cause of persistent homelessness. I lived on the streets for a while when I was a teen. My experience was almost no one wanted to stay there forever. The only people that do are crazy or totally given up on life. Therefore you have two homeless problems: 1. Crazy people or drug addicts that have no hope. 2. People who are in financial hardships. Almost all these stories are about #1, not #2. #2 is solved with many social programs. #1 exists because the state can't house crazy people in asylums any more. Therefore, the homeless problem will never be solved for #1 again because our society can't handle asylums. People commenting on the internet are not the issue.
- DailyHN 7y ago
  #1 is a problem that needs to be solved, yes. No, I don't think asylums are the solution. "Crazy people and drug addicts" can be rehabilitated. At this point, the only people in problem #1 are those that simultaneously have problem #2.
  - RobertRoberts 7y ago
    > "Crazy people and drug addicts" can be rehabilitated. Not if they don't want to be rehabilitated. Unless you are suggesting you don't give them a choice? That is an asylum. So, crazy/drug addicts are an unsolvable problem without some kind of force. Which isn't going to happen.
allworknoplay 7y ago
I think you got downvoted because you missed the point -- the harmful laws criminalizing homelessness were struck down, and the court won't hear appeals to put them back; it's a good thing.
- DailyHN 7y ago
  I understand what happened. I'm just sad this is what we're talking about in 2019.

WilliamEdward 7y ago

What? The article said the Supreme Court denied the idea of homelessness ticketing. also from the article: "The homeless and their advocates say ticketing homeless people does nothing to solve the bigger housing crisis."

DailyHN 7y ago
Yes, I agree with the outcome of the article. The sad thing is that anyone could ever imagine ticketing(monetary fines) as a good idea to control homelessness. That's kicking someone when they're already down. Very sad.

DailyHN 7y ago

It's also sad to see that my city spends extra money to make sure that every bench is designed so that sleeping on it is uncomfortable, if not impossible.

trentnix 7y ago

While I certainly hope humanity 'can do better', I haven't seen any strategies that are all that encouraging. Those that commit more resources end up with more homelessness and more of all the side effects that come with it: crime, filth, disease, and drugs. I greatly sympathize with anyone that finds themselves homeless. But I also don't want to live or raise my kids anywhere homelessness is rampant. That means I'm good with my local authorities doing whatever it takes to discourage homelessness in my area. What do you recommend?

DailyHN 7y ago
Recommendation: Raise your kids around homelessness. Why? Because then they will learn to have compassion for these people. And maybe then, with compassion that doesn't come from a sheltered life, one will use their privileged education and resources to execute an innovative solution successfully.
- RobertRoberts 7y ago
  I taught my kids compassion about homeless people. (I have experience with it) But I don't want them going near crazy and/or drug addicts that will rape or rob them. Street smarts are just as important as compassion.

RobertRoberts 7y ago

> ...then you are the reason homelessness is still a problem... That comes across as hyperbole. People commenting on the internet are not the cause of persistent homelessness. I lived on the streets for a while when I was a teen. My experience was almost no one wanted to stay there forever. The only people that do are crazy or totally given up on life. Therefore you have two homeless problems: 1. Crazy people or drug addicts that have no hope. 2. People who are in financial hardships. Almost all these stories are about #1, not #2. #2 is solved with many social programs. #1 exists because the state can't house crazy people in asylums any more. Therefore, the homeless problem will never be solved for #1 again because our society can't handle asylums. People commenting on the internet are not the issue.

DailyHN 7y ago
#1 is a problem that needs to be solved, yes. No, I don't think asylums are the solution. "Crazy people and drug addicts" can be rehabilitated. At this point, the only people in problem #1 are those that simultaneously have problem #2.
- RobertRoberts 7y ago
  > "Crazy people and drug addicts" can be rehabilitated. Not if they don't want to be rehabilitated. Unless you are suggesting you don't give them a choice? That is an asylum. So, crazy/drug addicts are an unsolvable problem without some kind of force. Which isn't going to happen.

allworknoplay 7y ago

I think you got downvoted because you missed the point -- the harmful laws criminalizing homelessness were struck down, and the court won't hear appeals to put them back; it's a good thing.

DailyHN 7y ago
I understand what happened. I'm just sad this is what we're talking about in 2019.