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How is malaria comparable to guns? Is malaria in the Constitution? Does Americans have a malaria culture?

throwaway2048 7y ago
If it did, im sure there would be plenty opining about the wonderful benefits of malaria, how it stops government tyranny from invading the swamps of our forefathers, and how you can always rely on it to dissuade thieves and criminals.
ip26 7y ago
The point is they both harm people; so it's no great surprise for a public health agency to have concerns about them.
- jakeogh 7y ago
  Gun use is overwhelmingly defensive.
  - beefalo 7y ago
    citation needed
    - jakeogh 7y ago
      (1995) Kleck & Gertz estimates of 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year: https://americangunfacts.com/pdf/Armed%20Resistance%20to%20Crime-%20The%20Prevalence%20and%20Nature%20of%20Self-Defe.pdf https://americangunfacts.com/pdf/Armed%20Resistance%20to%20C...
      - minikites 7y ago
        https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people... >In fact, Cook told The Washington Post that the percentage of people who told Kleck they used a gun in self-defense is similar to the percentage of Americans who said they were abducted by aliens. The Post notes that "a more reasonable estimate" of self-defense gun uses equals about 100,000 annually, according to the NCVS data.
        CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        Two numbers are similar. Obviously they must both be fictitious. Such a sound argument of the highest caliber. Or maybe it was just money laundering for an ad hominem.
        minikites 7y ago
        There's a better estimate right there in the second sentence.
        CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        There's an even better estimate in a response to your comment: (1997) 1.5M https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf
        jakeogh 7y ago
        (1997) 1.5M https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf
        sdinsn 7y ago
        I don't understand how people believing in alien abductions can be used to criticize gun ownership.
        minikites 7y ago
        They're both beliefs that are unsupported by evidence: https://psmag.com/news/keeping-a-gun-at-home-can-mean-a-higher-risk-of-being-killed-there https://psmag.com/news/keeping-a-gun-at-home-can-mean-a-high... https://slate.com/technology/2015/01/good-guy-with-a-gun-myth-guns-increase-the-risk-of-homicide-accidents-suicide.html https://slate.com/technology/2015/01/good-guy-with-a-gun-myt...
        CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        It's solid numerology. Like if you add up all the ASCII values for Bill Gates III, you get 666. /s

throwaway2048 7y ago

If it did, im sure there would be plenty opining about the wonderful benefits of malaria, how it stops government tyranny from invading the swamps of our forefathers, and how you can always rely on it to dissuade thieves and criminals.

ip26 7y ago

The point is they both harm people; so it's no great surprise for a public health agency to have concerns about them.

jakeogh 7y ago
Gun use is overwhelmingly defensive.
- beefalo 7y ago
  citation needed
  - jakeogh 7y ago
    (1995) Kleck & Gertz estimates of 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year: https://americangunfacts.com/pdf/Armed%20Resistance%20to%20Crime-%20The%20Prevalence%20and%20Nature%20of%20Self-Defe.pdf https://americangunfacts.com/pdf/Armed%20Resistance%20to%20C...
    - minikites 7y ago
      https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people... >In fact, Cook told The Washington Post that the percentage of people who told Kleck they used a gun in self-defense is similar to the percentage of Americans who said they were abducted by aliens. The Post notes that "a more reasonable estimate" of self-defense gun uses equals about 100,000 annually, according to the NCVS data.
      - CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        Two numbers are similar. Obviously they must both be fictitious. Such a sound argument of the highest caliber. Or maybe it was just money laundering for an ad hominem.
        minikites 7y ago
        There's a better estimate right there in the second sentence.
        CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        There's an even better estimate in a response to your comment: (1997) 1.5M https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf
      - jakeogh 7y ago
        (1997) 1.5M https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf
      - sdinsn 7y ago
        I don't understand how people believing in alien abductions can be used to criticize gun ownership.
        minikites 7y ago
        They're both beliefs that are unsupported by evidence: https://psmag.com/news/keeping-a-gun-at-home-can-mean-a-higher-risk-of-being-killed-there https://psmag.com/news/keeping-a-gun-at-home-can-mean-a-high... https://slate.com/technology/2015/01/good-guy-with-a-gun-myth-guns-increase-the-risk-of-homicide-accidents-suicide.html https://slate.com/technology/2015/01/good-guy-with-a-gun-myt...
        CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        It's solid numerology. Like if you add up all the ASCII values for Bill Gates III, you get 666. /s