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That's true to an extent, but unfortunately unions (at least in the US) tend to end up mimicking the same corporate behavior they are supposed to be placing a c
by tharne 7y ago
That's true to an extent, but unfortunately unions (at least in the US) tend to end up mimicking the same corporate behavior they are supposed to be placing a check on. The get bigger and more powerful and they start to take and take with no concern for the fallout, and like corporations, they get politicians to do their bidding at the expense of the general population.
There are towns near me teetering on bankruptcy, while the police and firefighters can retire after 20 years of service with a pension equal to 80% of their last 3 years of pay. Any effort to reform what is obviously an unsustainable agreement that never should have been struck in the first place is meet with a wall of resistance and veiled threats to public safety.
In the private sector, unions have had a long history of opposing environmental regulations out of fear that it would affect employment in heavy manufacturing. Auto workers unions have repeatedly opposed any effort to invest in public transportation and reduce auto dependency.
I've heard that Scandinavia has had better luck with unions, but here in the U.S. unions have been every bit as self-serving and bullying as the corporate overloads they're supposedly a counter balance to. I'd love to see better restraints on corporate power, but I'm not holding my breath for unions to be anything but one more moneyed interest.
- jkaplowitz 7y agoSure, US unions need some reforms, just like the plutocrats need to be reined in. And yet, if there are moneyed interests promoting the goals of big business and the rest of the ruling class, isn't it better to balance that out with whatever imperfect form of unionism is currently available while advocating for the necessary reforms? An anti-worker imbalance in money and power seems worse than that.
- tharne 7y agoThat's what I believed when I was younger. However, after watching unions in action, they seem to make things even worse, especially for younger workers. I don't think the answer to outsized corporate power is to try and balance it with outsized union power. What I'd like to see is simply more decentralization of power, something like the "trust busting" under Teddy Roosevelt. When any organization gets past a certain scale it seems to lose touch with basic values and decency. You see this with countries too. Small states like Singapore or Denmark don't often start needless wars or meddle in the affairs of others, the way superstates like the U.S., Russia or China do.
- chrisseaton 7y agoWhy have one adversarial master who doesn’t represent your interests when you could have two of them!