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I still don't get from your description what the point or motive would be. Who is locking in whom, for what purpose?

jrrrr 7y ago
The manufacturer of the complicated machine is withholding diagnostic tools, locking out owners and independent repair shops, in order to protect their own dealership/service business. From the article: > A Crain’s Chicago Business article reported that dealers make five times the profit margin off repair than they do off the sale of new equipment.
taftster 7y ago
Deere is controlling the marketplace for "repairs." If a farmer is required to use service centers exclusively provided and controlled by Deere, then they are inhibited from using the free market. The right to repair is essential for farmers to be able to choose the best repair options for their situation (self-made repairs, local non-affiliated repair shop, Deere certified). Some people take their cars to the dealer for all services. They do this because they value the expertise and depth that the dealers can [sometimes] provide. Other people take their cars to the local quick lube or brake repair shop. To each his own for car repairs. And so too it should be for any equipment repairs.
- magduf 7y ago
  >They do this because they value the expertise and depth that the dealers can [sometimes] provide. You mean the expertise they claim to provide. Dealership mechanics are generally junior mechanics; the really good, highly-experienced mechanics, go work at or start their own independent shops where they get much better pay. The big reason that you'd want to visit the dealer rather than an independent mechanic is because you really, really, like spending more money than you have to. There's a reason they're called "stealerships".
  - taftster 7y ago
    I mean, I don't personally disagree with you. But I was trying to keep the framing of my opinion a little more neutral. There are definitely some times when you want to go to the dealer; especially in rural areas, where the local repair shop has a lot of breadth, but not enough depth, to help with hard problems.
nerdponx 7y ago
Manufacturer locking end users in to the manufacturer's chosen parts and maintenance shops. Like how Apple tries to pretend the only place you can repair a Mac is at the Apple Store.
- robertoandred 7y ago
  Apple Authorized Service Providers are shown as an option everywhere an Apple Store is.
  - alt_f4 7y ago
    But are actually allowed to do a very small amount of very basic repairs. For everything else, they have to send it to Apple and they tell you that.
nokcha 7y ago
The manufacturer can charge higher prices for repairs if it can exclude third parties from performing repairs.

The manufacturer of the complicated machine is withholding diagnostic tools, locking out owners and independent repair shops, in order to protect their own dealership/service business. From the article: > A Crain’s Chicago Business article reported that dealers make five times the profit margin off repair than they do off the sale of new equipment.

taftster 7y ago

Deere is controlling the marketplace for "repairs." If a farmer is required to use service centers exclusively provided and controlled by Deere, then they are inhibited from using the free market. The right to repair is essential for farmers to be able to choose the best repair options for their situation (self-made repairs, local non-affiliated repair shop, Deere certified). Some people take their cars to the dealer for all services. They do this because they value the expertise and depth that the dealers can [sometimes] provide. Other people take their cars to the local quick lube or brake repair shop. To each his own for car repairs. And so too it should be for any equipment repairs.

magduf 7y ago
>They do this because they value the expertise and depth that the dealers can [sometimes] provide. You mean the expertise they claim to provide. Dealership mechanics are generally junior mechanics; the really good, highly-experienced mechanics, go work at or start their own independent shops where they get much better pay. The big reason that you'd want to visit the dealer rather than an independent mechanic is because you really, really, like spending more money than you have to. There's a reason they're called "stealerships".
- taftster 7y ago
  I mean, I don't personally disagree with you. But I was trying to keep the framing of my opinion a little more neutral. There are definitely some times when you want to go to the dealer; especially in rural areas, where the local repair shop has a lot of breadth, but not enough depth, to help with hard problems.

nerdponx 7y ago

Manufacturer locking end users in to the manufacturer's chosen parts and maintenance shops. Like how Apple tries to pretend the only place you can repair a Mac is at the Apple Store.

robertoandred 7y ago
Apple Authorized Service Providers are shown as an option everywhere an Apple Store is.
- alt_f4 7y ago
  But are actually allowed to do a very small amount of very basic repairs. For everything else, they have to send it to Apple and they tell you that.

nokcha 7y ago

The manufacturer can charge higher prices for repairs if it can exclude third parties from performing repairs.