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There are other laws against those things. We don't need one against sleeping outside.

gamblor956 7y ago
In its infinite wisdom, the 9th Circuit has also decreed that we cannot force homeless drug users into rehab against their will, or to commit mentally ill homeless for treatment unless they represent an immediate danger to themselves or others...though the first sign of that is usually when they kill themselves or some innocent bystander, like has happened a dozen times in the past year.
- MisterBastahrd 7y ago
  How often have people who have the comfort of homes killed people during the course of the past year?
- seriesf 7y ago
  I'm sure that's a gross exaggeration. In any case there have only been 33 homicides in SF in 2019, which is down by about 20% vs. the prior year.
- e1ven 7y ago
  You're talking about people. Regardless of if they are annoying you, you shouldn't try to treat this like a pest-control situation. I urge you to re-think your position, with the understanding that they are real in the same way you are.
  - enjo 7y ago
    They’re often people who simply refuse to participate in society in a very basic way... which is fine but I also think that I have some right to personal safety as much as they do. LA has experienced Typhus outbreaks in their homeless camps. They absolutely trash huge sections of most cities. Crime and disease are a huge issue in those populations. Homelessness should be combated with compassion and understanding. We have a responsibility to provide shelter, food, and ways out of homelessness for people. Vagrancy on the other hand should be met with something else. We have the right as a society to ensure that our cities and public spaces work for everyone.
  - gdy 7y ago
    It's a gross misrepresentation to replace 'killing some innocent bystander' with 'annoying'.
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    I'll remember that the next time a homeless guy tries to attack me on a run, like one did this past weekend. I should give him flowers and kisses instead of punching him in the face.

In its infinite wisdom, the 9th Circuit has also decreed that we cannot force homeless drug users into rehab against their will, or to commit mentally ill homeless for treatment unless they represent an immediate danger to themselves or others...though the first sign of that is usually when they kill themselves or some innocent bystander, like has happened a dozen times in the past year.

MisterBastahrd 7y ago
How often have people who have the comfort of homes killed people during the course of the past year?
seriesf 7y ago
I'm sure that's a gross exaggeration. In any case there have only been 33 homicides in SF in 2019, which is down by about 20% vs. the prior year.
e1ven 7y ago
You're talking about people. Regardless of if they are annoying you, you shouldn't try to treat this like a pest-control situation. I urge you to re-think your position, with the understanding that they are real in the same way you are.
- enjo 7y ago
  They’re often people who simply refuse to participate in society in a very basic way... which is fine but I also think that I have some right to personal safety as much as they do. LA has experienced Typhus outbreaks in their homeless camps. They absolutely trash huge sections of most cities. Crime and disease are a huge issue in those populations. Homelessness should be combated with compassion and understanding. We have a responsibility to provide shelter, food, and ways out of homelessness for people. Vagrancy on the other hand should be met with something else. We have the right as a society to ensure that our cities and public spaces work for everyone.
- gdy 7y ago
  It's a gross misrepresentation to replace 'killing some innocent bystander' with 'annoying'.
- gamblor956 7y ago
  I'll remember that the next time a homeless guy tries to attack me on a run, like one did this past weekend. I should give him flowers and kisses instead of punching him in the face.