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Criticism of CNN going to biased reporting began a decade or so ago when they started falling way behind in market share compared to Fox News and MSNBC. Unfort

Criticism of CNN going to biased reporting began a decade or so ago when they started falling way behind in market share compared to Fox News and MSNBC. Unfortunately being objective doesn't give a rapid fan base. Not sure if there was a delay before it bled over to their website, I'm only aware of comments about the cable station. It is unfortunate that unbiased boring news just doesn't sell. The best college class I ever took (most useful?) was a logic class where we went through political speeches and disassembled them into logical statements. We learned how to strip away bias to see the underlying arguments. My favorite test question in that class was a political speech that, when reduced down to logical statements literally equated to null. The speech went around in so many circles that, quite literally, everything said in it was unsaid at some later point in the speech and absolutely nothing was promised by the end. I've been rather cynical of politicians ever since. Also I ended up being super sensitive to loaded phrases and propaganda. Once you've been trained in spotting it, it becomes obvious how prevalent purposeful bias is in our media.

GiorgioG 7y ago
I basically can't stomach watching/reading any "news" media any longer. Fox News needs no introduction, CNN follows closely behind. I'm so sickened by all the bias (one way or the other) that I feel like it's all tabloid nonsense and that it isn't worth my time.
- excalibur 7y ago
  https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-outlets-in-america-2018-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-o... A year and a half old, which is a lifetime in Trumpworld, but still relevant. The top (composite) infographic paints a pretty good picture of which outlets are most and least trustworthy, or at least viewed that way. Interesting when you look at the partisan breakdown in the lower graphics. The Democrats adhere fairly closely to the consensus view, aside from assigning some additional weight to outlets like Washington Post and CNN. But the Republicans appear completely divorced from the middle, placing Fox News and WSJ on a pedestal and distrusting all else, including such relatively unbiased sources as PBS, AP, and NPR.
  - GiorgioG 7y ago
    There's also https://www.allsides.com https://www.allsides.com but I've become so disgusted with all the politicians/politics that I don't even bother with it.
- erulabs 7y ago
  You might try CBSN - they seem to work really hard to avoid bias. Particularly anything Major Garret or Margeret Brennen do is really well considered and thoughtful. I was extremely sick of bad reporting and having to shout “except that’s not the whole story...” every time I watched the news - at very least Face the Nation is excellent journalism.
uoaei 7y ago
Objectivity is moot when all your rhetoric is pushed into emotional triggers. My experience with CNN is it's for whipping up discontent, and using news bytes to do it. As an example, and this is totally anecdotal, the past few times I've flipped to CNN they weren't talking about the serious news of the day, e.g. impeachment proceedings, but rather spent all their time on "gut-wrenching" (their word, used maybe 4x per minute while I watched) stories like the family who was killed by Mexican cartels 1.5 months ago, when the first rumblings of impeachment started proper. I sensed nothing in the broadcast but effort to keep eyeballs glued to the screen. No interest in reporting in any way "objectively" except when that means "restate the same 4 factoids about this story until we wait for someone else to come in with a 5th". No appropriate analysis, no demonstration of understanding that cartel warfare has been rampant in Mexico for decades and the caravan that was targeted looked an awful lot like a drug transport caravan from far away, nothing.

GiorgioG 7y ago

I basically can't stomach watching/reading any "news" media any longer. Fox News needs no introduction, CNN follows closely behind. I'm so sickened by all the bias (one way or the other) that I feel like it's all tabloid nonsense and that it isn't worth my time.

excalibur 7y ago
https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-outlets-in-america-2018-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-o... A year and a half old, which is a lifetime in Trumpworld, but still relevant. The top (composite) infographic paints a pretty good picture of which outlets are most and least trustworthy, or at least viewed that way. Interesting when you look at the partisan breakdown in the lower graphics. The Democrats adhere fairly closely to the consensus view, aside from assigning some additional weight to outlets like Washington Post and CNN. But the Republicans appear completely divorced from the middle, placing Fox News and WSJ on a pedestal and distrusting all else, including such relatively unbiased sources as PBS, AP, and NPR.
- GiorgioG 7y ago
  There's also https://www.allsides.com https://www.allsides.com but I've become so disgusted with all the politicians/politics that I don't even bother with it.
erulabs 7y ago
You might try CBSN - they seem to work really hard to avoid bias. Particularly anything Major Garret or Margeret Brennen do is really well considered and thoughtful. I was extremely sick of bad reporting and having to shout “except that’s not the whole story...” every time I watched the news - at very least Face the Nation is excellent journalism.

uoaei 7y ago

Objectivity is moot when all your rhetoric is pushed into emotional triggers. My experience with CNN is it's for whipping up discontent, and using news bytes to do it. As an example, and this is totally anecdotal, the past few times I've flipped to CNN they weren't talking about the serious news of the day, e.g. impeachment proceedings, but rather spent all their time on "gut-wrenching" (their word, used maybe 4x per minute while I watched) stories like the family who was killed by Mexican cartels 1.5 months ago, when the first rumblings of impeachment started proper. I sensed nothing in the broadcast but effort to keep eyeballs glued to the screen. No interest in reporting in any way "objectively" except when that means "restate the same 4 factoids about this story until we wait for someone else to come in with a 5th". No appropriate analysis, no demonstration of understanding that cartel warfare has been rampant in Mexico for decades and the caravan that was targeted looked an awful lot like a drug transport caravan from far away, nothing.