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I did look this up. How this can be construed as a coherent argument in a timed debate is... it's nearly unbelievable to me. Yes, they fit in far more informat

I did look this up. How this can be construed as a coherent argument in a timed debate is... it's nearly unbelievable to me. Yes, they fit in far more information and logical constructs than I could in that kind of time but it throws all oratory practice out the window. It's not just incoherent, indistinguishable babbling, it's also terrible to listen to with those deep, throaty breaths he has to take in order to accomplish his speed read... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeDq90Ar4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeDq90Ar4k I had no idea these courses were carried out this way.

Der_Einzige 7y ago
It's not courses. It's tournaments. And the people who speak fastest and read the most obscure arguments are the ones who win the most.
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  What good are the arguments if they can't be understood. And I don't mean for their philosophical obscurity, but practically. Even slowing down that audio doesn't render discernible words.
zozbot234 7y ago
The thing is, so-called "debate" is a competitive sport with its own weird rules. You are incented to babble a lot because then the opponent has to waste time on countering what you said - since that's what the rules require. It doesn't have to make sense, it still confers an advantage.
shantly 7y ago
IMO most games—especially ones that are more intellectual than physical—get worse over time as the rules get more and more "gamed" and "correct play" gets nailed down & optimized. Kills all the fun.