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It would be alright for me if the terms of use where: If your content is against the law, or does not conform to the guidelines that where written in the terms

by bpfrh 7y ago

It would be alright for me if the terms of use where: If your content is against the law, or does not conform to the guidelines that where written in the terms of use, it will be removed. And for the guidelines: A Guideline change will be communicated at least half a year before the changes This gives people ample time to other plattforms or move videos. EDIT: And of course if you are a repeate offender you get banned for X weeks/months/years, or you have to have a manuall review on each update which raises your fees.

tiborsaas 7y ago
You are just framing the same thing in a different way. The ToS is lawyer speak, how they enforce it is a really different question. To provide a service for the vast majority you need powerful legal tools against the small, but smart devious users. Strict wording is part of this never ending battle. At YouTube scale it's very hard and injustice is baked into the system. With a service like Floatplane, you can police it fairly easily. To a point... :) Then they will start to feel the heat.
- bpfrh 7y ago
  Not really. My idea binds them to certain terms e.g. they can only ban accounts if they don't follow guidelines,which means they have to give a reason which can be legally challenged. They can only change the guidelines after a warning period, which means they have more incentitive to be constructive with the community as they can move away in that time. As of now, if you join the plattform you only have very few gurantees. As per the terms right now, they could happily send you an E-Mail at around 1AM and change pledge fees to 300%. If that lands in the spam folder, you could not notice it until you have to pay. Then they could ban you and delete your account without any reason, without any refunds. Do I think they will do it? No Do I think a company which presents itself as a fair new company who wants to be fair etc. should have terms of use which enable such behaivour? No, I think it is high time that such terms of use are banned. I'm not even sure such terms would be legal in some countries.

by bpfrh 7y ago

tiborsaas 7y ago

You are just framing the same thing in a different way. The ToS is lawyer speak, how they enforce it is a really different question. To provide a service for the vast majority you need powerful legal tools against the small, but smart devious users. Strict wording is part of this never ending battle. At YouTube scale it's very hard and injustice is baked into the system. With a service like Floatplane, you can police it fairly easily. To a point... :) Then they will start to feel the heat.

bpfrh 7y ago
Not really. My idea binds them to certain terms e.g. they can only ban accounts if they don't follow guidelines,which means they have to give a reason which can be legally challenged. They can only change the guidelines after a warning period, which means they have more incentitive to be constructive with the community as they can move away in that time. As of now, if you join the plattform you only have very few gurantees. As per the terms right now, they could happily send you an E-Mail at around 1AM and change pledge fees to 300%. If that lands in the spam folder, you could not notice it until you have to pay. Then they could ban you and delete your account without any reason, without any refunds. Do I think they will do it? No Do I think a company which presents itself as a fair new company who wants to be fair etc. should have terms of use which enable such behaivour? No, I think it is high time that such terms of use are banned. I'm not even sure such terms would be legal in some countries.