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> A serious video CDN is one of those things that makes sense at scale. Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality (Also, the CDN doesn't even make sense fo

> A serious video CDN is one of those things that makes sense at scale. Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality (Also, the CDN doesn't even make sense for youtube - they are not profitable)

big_chungus 7y ago
Meh, torrents provide some. They don't handle the different qualities you might want to select for, say, a fast desktop vs a slow mobile connection. They also make controlling distribution much harder.
- Zekio 7y ago
  depends I've seen a pretty decent solution before using WebRTC to it amongst clients, can't remember the name of the company who had the solution tho...
  - RL_Quine 7y ago
    If you use my bandwidth to serve your own traffic, fuck you, honestly. The internet is hard enough without wondering if random websites are slowing down my connection by seeding torrents with webRTC.
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dsl 7y ago
> Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality Plenty of companies have tried to build peer-to-peer CDNs (including Bittorrent, Inc. itself). They have all failed. P2P doesn't work well on mobile, ISPs get super upset about seeding from residential connections (and often use boxes to traffic shape it), there is no programatic way to determine if even a residential line is on a pay-per-use plan, and in general consumers don't like you using "their bandwidth."
- buboard 7y ago
  sure. but creators have an incentive to run nodes for the network. renting a vps to run ipfs or a webtorrent relay is cheap and also facilitates worldwide distribution and ISPs might adapt to increased demand, fixing their stingy upload rates
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
> Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality Adaptive bitrate streaming? That strikes me as the real acid test as to whether you have a serious video streaming platform, or a generic file-distribution platform.
- MayeulC 7y ago
  PeerTube does this using multiple files already, but I wish they used SVC (scalable video coding). That's an issue I've already talked at large here and on their issue tracker. (Long story short: people believe the gains aren't so big).

> A serious video CDN is one of those things that makes sense at scale. Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality (Also, the CDN doesn't even make sense for youtube - they are not profitable)

big_chungus 7y ago

Meh, torrents provide some. They don't handle the different qualities you might want to select for, say, a fast desktop vs a slow mobile connection. They also make controlling distribution much harder.

Zekio 7y ago
depends I've seen a pretty decent solution before using WebRTC to it amongst clients, can't remember the name of the company who had the solution tho...
- RL_Quine 7y ago
  If you use my bandwidth to serve your own traffic, fuck you, honestly. The internet is hard enough without wondering if random websites are slowing down my connection by seeding torrents with webRTC.
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dsl 7y ago

> Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality Plenty of companies have tried to build peer-to-peer CDNs (including Bittorrent, Inc. itself). They have all failed. P2P doesn't work well on mobile, ISPs get super upset about seeding from residential connections (and often use boxes to traffic shape it), there is no programatic way to determine if even a residential line is on a pay-per-use plan, and in general consumers don't like you using "their bandwidth."

buboard 7y ago
sure. but creators have an incentive to run nodes for the network. renting a vps to run ipfs or a webtorrent relay is cheap and also facilitates worldwide distribution and ISPs might adapt to increased demand, fixing their stingy upload rates

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

> Torrents provide a lot of this funcitonality Adaptive bitrate streaming? That strikes me as the real acid test as to whether you have a serious video streaming platform, or a generic file-distribution platform.

MayeulC 7y ago
PeerTube does this using multiple files already, but I wish they used SVC (scalable video coding). That's an issue I've already talked at large here and on their issue tracker. (Long story short: people believe the gains aren't so big).