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Sure, but in that case most current films would never have been made... or at least I got that distinct impression from MPAA.

lotsofpulp 7y ago
It is in their benefit to claim that, regardless of the truth of the statement. Why would one trust a biased party such as MPAA?
- eikenberry 7y ago
  I believe they were being sarcastic. No one would take the MPAA's word on something like this, they have an obvious bias.
behringer 7y ago
Which films exactly took 28 years to turn a profit?
- umvi 7y ago
  That's not the point. Valve turned a huge profit on Portal 2. Yet they refuse to make Portal 3. Why? Because compared to Steam, Portal 2 generates a tiny ROI by comparison. Option A: invest $1 in Steam and get $10 back Option B: invest $1 in Portal 3 and get $2 back which do you do? Same goes for movie industry. A movie promises returns for decades as it is milked and re-released in various formats. If the movie can only make money for 20-ish years, ROI goes down significantly. Read: "The Disney Vault" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Vault https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Vault
  - behringer 7y ago
    May I offer an alternative reason why Valve did not make Portal 3? It's because when you rehash the same game, people get sick of it. Sometimes a product needs to stand on it's own. Why harm the Portal franchise by being to quick to release, release, release? Seems like hollywood is already on board with this. What do they need Ghostbusters to have a 100 year copyright on when they could just release a new Ghostbusters every 30-40 years like they're pretty much already doing.
    - umvi 7y ago
      If you don't plan on making Portal 3, don't tease Portal 3 with easter eggs like the Borealis.
      - behringer 7y ago
        Like I made mention before, just because they don't want to release it now doesn't mean they won't want to do another one in 20-30 years after technologies and ideas have had enough time to mature to put a new twist on things.
        umvi 7y ago
        Half their fanbase will be dead in 30 years
        behringer 7y ago
        So you're saying we'll get a reboot ;)
  - criddell 7y ago
    I always thought Portal 3 never came out because nobody at Valve wanted to work on it.
- sekh60 7y ago
  Given Hollywood accounting and the topic of piracy I would be surprised if any films made a profit since the dawn of the MPAA.
w-j-w 7y ago
The MPAA is full of it on this one. Most investments happen with a payoff expected within a few years. In general,.investors don't care about what money they can make in 30 years.
magduf 7y ago
Well, the entire movie industry doesn't even exist any more, because it was killed by the videotape, according to the MPAA. Remember, Jack Valenti of the MPAA asserted before Congress in the 1980s that videotape recorders would destroy the movie industry. So none of this should even be an issue now.

lotsofpulp 7y ago

It is in their benefit to claim that, regardless of the truth of the statement. Why would one trust a biased party such as MPAA?

eikenberry 7y ago
I believe they were being sarcastic. No one would take the MPAA's word on something like this, they have an obvious bias.

behringer 7y ago

Which films exactly took 28 years to turn a profit?

umvi 7y ago
That's not the point. Valve turned a huge profit on Portal 2. Yet they refuse to make Portal 3. Why? Because compared to Steam, Portal 2 generates a tiny ROI by comparison. Option A: invest $1 in Steam and get $10 back Option B: invest $1 in Portal 3 and get $2 back which do you do? Same goes for movie industry. A movie promises returns for decades as it is milked and re-released in various formats. If the movie can only make money for 20-ish years, ROI goes down significantly. Read: "The Disney Vault" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Vault https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Vault
- behringer 7y ago
  May I offer an alternative reason why Valve did not make Portal 3? It's because when you rehash the same game, people get sick of it. Sometimes a product needs to stand on it's own. Why harm the Portal franchise by being to quick to release, release, release? Seems like hollywood is already on board with this. What do they need Ghostbusters to have a 100 year copyright on when they could just release a new Ghostbusters every 30-40 years like they're pretty much already doing.
  - umvi 7y ago
    If you don't plan on making Portal 3, don't tease Portal 3 with easter eggs like the Borealis.
    - behringer 7y ago
      Like I made mention before, just because they don't want to release it now doesn't mean they won't want to do another one in 20-30 years after technologies and ideas have had enough time to mature to put a new twist on things.
      - umvi 7y ago
        Half their fanbase will be dead in 30 years
        behringer 7y ago
        So you're saying we'll get a reboot ;)
- criddell 7y ago
  I always thought Portal 3 never came out because nobody at Valve wanted to work on it.
sekh60 7y ago
Given Hollywood accounting and the topic of piracy I would be surprised if any films made a profit since the dawn of the MPAA.

w-j-w 7y ago

The MPAA is full of it on this one. Most investments happen with a payoff expected within a few years. In general,.investors don't care about what money they can make in 30 years.

magduf 7y ago

Well, the entire movie industry doesn't even exist any more, because it was killed by the videotape, according to the MPAA. Remember, Jack Valenti of the MPAA asserted before Congress in the 1980s that videotape recorders would destroy the movie industry. So none of this should even be an issue now.