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The struggle to name lab-grown meat
- dboreham 7y agoTVP?
- jdsully 7y agoThere's a parallel issue with traditional meat farmers banding together to prevent labelling this as "meat". I agree with them when it comes to plant based meat imitators but cultured meat is a harder sell for me. This is actual meat tissue.
- PyroLagus 7y agoLab-grown diamond faced the same issue, but now it's considered diamond just the same by the FTC, so I'm not sure what the farmers are hoping for.
- JMTQp8lwXL 7y agoThe gap between lab grown diamonds versus those found in the Earth is much narrower than lab grown vs farm grown meat today. You need special technology to detect one from the other. With time, it'll be an increasingly losing battle for the farmers.
- msla 7y ago> I'm not sure what the farmers are hoping for. Effective subsidies, like when margarine legally wasn't allowed to be sold yellow: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/2014/08/13/the-butter-wars-when-margarine-was-pink/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/20... Force the vat-meat makers to call their product something unappetizing, and save the cattle yards.
- larnmar 7y agoIf the French can stop you from calling your chemically identical sparkling white wine “Champagne”, I see no reason why meat farmers shouldn’t be able to stop you from calling your industrially-grown bovine cell culture “meat”.
- fbbgfddd 7y agoIf they called it “dead cow” I’d agree, but they call parts of nuts meat as well. Meat doesn’t mean dead animal.
- jdsully 7y agoChampagne is the name of a region, and the grapes and finally the wine inherit the name from that region. Because the taste of grapes are affected by weather the actual region of production makes a difference. I don't consider it quite the same thing. That said, there is little consistency in how things are named and often it comes down to the relative power of one special interest over another. We shall see how this shakes out.
- glandium 7y agoFWIW, the grapes aren't called Champagne. Champagne sparkling wine usually uses Pinot Noir, Pinot Meunier or Chardonnay grapes.
- msla 7y agoWhat it's legally allowed to be advertised as and what people will call it are two different things.
- AstralStorm 7y agoSo they should all get to sell natural and organic meat. ;)
- ggm 7y agoMaet. "have some maet, mate" (this is a riff on mylk which is what the nuts are doing over the dairy aisle) Soy links are universally crap. Nut loaf is better. Not<x> is quite popular, but the meat aisle packers are now fighting back, ring-fencing the vegan fake meat options to a slum stand at the end.
- TallGuyShort 7y agoDoes it taste like sadness, like in Better Off Ted?
- jpm_sd 7y agoFeat
- thrill 7y agoI guess Soylent Green is taken?
- zamadatix 7y ago"Soylent" is an actual liquid food product. Wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting, name gave me a chuckle.
- chrisseaton 7y agoThat was the joke.
- golemotron 7y agoThe article side-steps the ethical issue lurking behind lab-grown meat. Many animals would never have had a life if they hadn't been raised for food.
- shhshahassa 7y agoWhat a great life they'll be missing out on...You're either a psychopath or have extreme cognitive dissonance.
- lonelappde 7y agoSo? Thousands of babies are never born every time a male mammal ejaculates.
- tehlike 7y agoReplace animal with human, if we had an organ farm in which we grow humans and then kill to harvest the organs, would it be ethical? PS. I am a meat eater
- p1necone 7y agoThere are infinitely many possible lives that didn't happen for infinitely many different reasons. I'm not sure it makes sense to value hypothetical lives.
- delecti 7y agoThat logic immediately justifies any number of absurd or horrific acts.
- daenz 7y agoWhat about "ethical meat"? I love meat, but I still think killing an animal for food, when you don't really have to, is an ethical gray area. Lab-grown meat is the first time we don't have to consider the ethics of killing an animal in order to eat meat.
- OnlineGladiator 7y agoFun fact: all the lab grown meat today requires fetal bovine serum - they literally kill newborn calves and suck the juices out of their hearts to grow these meats. https://slate.com/technology/2017/07/the-gruesome-truth-about-lab-grown-meat.html https://slate.com/technology/2017/07/the-gruesome-truth-abou...
- lonelappde 7y agoWhy not abort the fetuses?
- OnlineGladiator 7y agoNo idea - I assume because it's easier? This isn't my wheelhouse. I just remember when I found out I was surprised it seemed nobody else knew (at least everybody else I told seemed surprised) since it's pushed so heavily as an ethical alternative to meat and they're still killing animals to make it.
- AstralStorm 7y agoOnce the culture is started you don't have to kill more calves. Of course, accidents when growing cell cultures still happen.
- OnlineGladiator 7y agoBut how much meat do you get from each culture?
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- Severian 7y agoJust use what William Gibson does and call it "Vat grown" "Jesus," Molly said, her own plate empty, "gimme that. You know what this costs?" She took his plate. 'They gotta raise a whole animal for years and then they kill it. This isn't vat stuff." She forked a mouthful up and chewed. - Neuromancer
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- buboard 7y agough, just take a page from tech marketing. Virtual meat or Smart meat or Cloud meat or Meatless meat . Or just Frankestein Meat
- drannex 7y ago'Clean Meat' is my preferred nomenclature when describing it to people. They seem more open to it than anything else.
- seph-reed 7y agoI've been hearing it called "Shmeat" since almost 2008. Appears that word has been given a new definition since then.
- sandoooo 7y agofactory meat? ivf-meat? meat-that-may-or-may-not-contain-human-genetic-material? meat(lol)? bambi-approved meat? I'd still eat it if they make it taste like wagyu tbh. Maybe they should popularize it by donating it to food banks and set quotas for it on food stamps.
- larnmar 7y agoSure, if there’s one thing that will convince the masses that they should be eating weird vat-grown animal tissue, it’s telling them “Hey, all the poor people are doing it!”
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoSynflesh
- GreeniFi 7y agoIt’s Impossible!
- msla 7y agoSteal from science fiction: ChickieNobs http://remotestorage.blogspot.com/2010/07/margaret-atwoods-chickienobs.html http://remotestorage.blogspot.com/2010/07/margaret-atwoods-c...
- rglover 7y agoImeatation Meatshift (makeshift) Fabricow Immicow Tubesteak <-- Come on!
- tehlike 7y agoDEADBEEF
- sandoooo 7y ago'semen-free meat'
- buttholesurfer 7y agoHow about lab meat?