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The majority of people don't live in the U.S. Why should the U.S. government hold such control? If the argument is that they invented the internet, (hardly enti

The majority of people don't live in the U.S. Why should the U.S. government hold such control? If the argument is that they invented the internet, (hardly entirely accurate), they certainly didn't invent the World Wide Web. I don't even agree with them having .gov, them regaining .org would be a disaster. If anything, some sort of multi-national, strictly non-profit charity should be setup for this, or if not, the U.N. as a last resort.

delecti 7y ago
It looks like both ICANN and ISOC have their headquarters in the US.
sct202 7y ago
As we've seen already with the current set up where they are a small non-profit charity these places can get corrupted when there's enough money dangling in front of the right people.
CharlesColeman 7y ago
> Why should the U.S. government hold such control? Because they did until very recently. > If anything, some sort of multi-national, strictly non-profit charity should be setup for this, or if not, the U.N. as a last resort. That would take literally years, and would be too-little, too-late to deal with these shenanigans around the .org TLD.
- AsyncAwait 7y ago
  > Because they did until very recently. That's not an argument. Any regressive policy could and has been justified in those terms.
  - CharlesColeman 7y ago
    > That's not an argument. Any regressive policy could and has been justified in those terms. Yes, it is. The US government has an institutional history of overseeing ICAAN, so it's the most practical organization to take on that role on short notice. I think you're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Your preferred multi-national solution would likely take years to negotiate, which means it's not really even a solution at all, as far as .org is concerned.
FDSGSG 7y ago
So why should ICANN hold any such control?
tal8d 7y ago
> The majority of people don't live in the U.S. Now that is not an argument. The majority of people don't <insert nearly anything>. The net did pretty well under American stewardship. Sure there was Tipper Gore, but everything worked out. Every time some faceless UN bureaucrat mused about taxing email, or charging extra for "long distance" routing - it was nice knowing that there was a historically sane hand on the wheel. You want something like the EU in charge? Their copyright legislation is the most nakedly corrupt barrier to entry I've ever seen. This kills the net.

delecti 7y ago

It looks like both ICANN and ISOC have their headquarters in the US.

sct202 7y ago

As we've seen already with the current set up where they are a small non-profit charity these places can get corrupted when there's enough money dangling in front of the right people.

CharlesColeman 7y ago

> Why should the U.S. government hold such control? Because they did until very recently. > If anything, some sort of multi-national, strictly non-profit charity should be setup for this, or if not, the U.N. as a last resort. That would take literally years, and would be too-little, too-late to deal with these shenanigans around the .org TLD.

AsyncAwait 7y ago
> Because they did until very recently. That's not an argument. Any regressive policy could and has been justified in those terms.
- CharlesColeman 7y ago
  > That's not an argument. Any regressive policy could and has been justified in those terms. Yes, it is. The US government has an institutional history of overseeing ICAAN, so it's the most practical organization to take on that role on short notice. I think you're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Your preferred multi-national solution would likely take years to negotiate, which means it's not really even a solution at all, as far as .org is concerned.

FDSGSG 7y ago

So why should ICANN hold any such control?

tal8d 7y ago

> The majority of people don't live in the U.S. Now that is not an argument. The majority of people don't <insert nearly anything>. The net did pretty well under American stewardship. Sure there was Tipper Gore, but everything worked out. Every time some faceless UN bureaucrat mused about taxing email, or charging extra for "long distance" routing - it was nice knowing that there was a historically sane hand on the wheel. You want something like the EU in charge? Their copyright legislation is the most nakedly corrupt barrier to entry I've ever seen. This kills the net.