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Donate – iTerm2

81 points by troydavis 7y ago

troydavis 7y ago
I didn't know that there was a way to financially support iTerm2, an app I've used constantly for many years. iTerm2 is incredibly well executed and regularly updated. Turns out there are multiple ways to help, so I'm now a supporter.
- pvg 7y ago
  That's cool but I'm not so sure pledge drives for every which bit of software really belong on HN.
  - troydavis 7y ago
    > I'm not so sure pledge drives for every which bit of software really belong on HN. That's a completely fair opinion, but in that case, don't upvote it. As https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html says, "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate." (I think iTerm2 is used by a far larger percentage of HN readers than most other free apps, especially those maintained by one individual, but I may be wrong about that. Maybe the meta-submission is this: if you spend a lot of time using a piece of free software - and enjoy it - and don't contribute code/docs/something to it, see whether there's a way to donate. Doesn't need to be iTerm2.)
    - stbullard 7y ago
      I for one would love to see HN do a quarterly/yearly FOSS project donation drive. The more we can do to encourage the development, maintenance, and improvement of tools we all use and sometimes take for granted, the better!
    - pvg 7y ago
      That's a completely fair opinion I asked the mods and was told fundraisers are generally offtopic. You can also find this in the hadith: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7500031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7500031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15315196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15315196
latchkey 7y ago
I used iTerm for many years because it was so much better than Terminal.app. At the suggestion of a coworker, I recently switched back to regular Terminal.app and it does everything I need, but with much less cpu/ram usage and 'feels' faster. This is one area where Apple has really done a good job in improving things. As much as I love this alternative solution, I'm mot sure I'd go back to iTerm2 unless I had a specific need that Terminal didn't address.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
  No tabs or split screen?
  - izolate 7y ago
    Tmux is a much more robust solution for that
  - ebg13 7y ago
    It definitely does have tabs.
  - eddieroger 7y ago
    As of Catalina, it can do both of those things. It may have been able to do both before, but I haven't checked in a while.
  - cocochanel 7y ago
    It can do both.
  - latchkey 7y ago
    Tabs and split work just fine in my Terminal.app version (2.9.5). I'm not on Catalina yet.
- fouc 7y ago
  I think the big selling feature of iTerm was the tmux integration, but I've never gotten around to trying that out.
pdq 7y ago
Check out Alacritty, for a much faster and lower CPU usage terminal. The difference feels like gaming at 60fps vs 24fps. https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty
- postpawl 7y ago
  iTerm2 started doing some GPU rendering stuff in version 3.2 (https://iterm2.com/downloads/stable/iTerm2-3_2_0.changelog https://iterm2.com/downloads/stable/iTerm2-3_2_0.changelog). Maybe it's faster since you last used it?
  - sudofail 7y ago
    I just double checked and Alacritty is indeed much faster still. This issue is probably the single most important feature for me in a terminal emulator, and unfortunately iTerm2 just doesn't cut it yet. On my 5k display, at full screen resolution, iTerm2 scrolls in a large vim buffer at max 40fps. Alacritty on the other hand is around 60fps. Not sure how to enable an FPS meter on the Terminal app, but it feels closer to 10-15fps. I used iTerm2 for years, and am still a Patron, but until GPU acceleration gets to 60fps at 5k resolution, I don't think I'll be switching back. It's still one of my favorite open source projects, and is only one of two that I currently pay for each month. So I sincerely recommend it to anyone who doesn't care too much about terminal performance.
- new_realist 7y ago
  Can Alacritty GPU-accelerate subpixel rendering like iTerm2?
Ecco 7y ago
"Please ship peaty single-malt Scotch to:" :-D
kentf 7y ago
I used it for years. Donated $20. Thank you :)
- jmontano 7y ago
  iTerm2 and DevonThink are the apps I miss the most from my old days as a OSX user.
- youeseh 7y ago
  Same here. Happy to pay! Thank you, iTerm2!
unixhero 7y ago
Would be awesome with more PPC builds! Yes PPC still lives! Great application.
- etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
  How exactly does PPC still live, esp for macOS?
  - unixhero 7y ago
    Why, enthusiasts of course! - http://leopardrebirth.net/ http://leopardrebirth.net/ - https://macpowerpc.com/ https://macpowerpc.com/ - https://youtu.be/9SSsE1LcrUI https://youtu.be/9SSsE1LcrUI Iterm1 and iterm2 had builds for PPC. They were glorious. It would be great to see more updates.
n4s33r 7y ago
I've been using iTerm2 since what feels like forever, I especially value the tmux integration. I've met George Nachman once many years back when he was at Google - a truly humble and soft spoken person. Really appreciate the work he's done on iTerm2!
k_sze 7y ago
I wish I would want to support iTerm2. I have been using it for years. However, a few problems compound to make me hesitate staying on macOS at all. In particular: 1. I still haven't figured out how to solve the slow performance of vim in iTerm2, despite trying the solutions in multiple posts over the internet; vim in alacritty is also slow. 2. macOS Catalina sucks (32-bit killed off, and the show-stopper mail data loss bug); 3. The latest 16" MacBook Pro keyboard is better than the butterfly design of the last few years, but still not as good as the old scissor design; 4. I want nothing to do with the Touch Bar, except maybe Touch ID. All in all, I'll probably get my next mobile device from any one of the following manufacturers, and install Linux: - Dell (XPS 15") - System76 (Darter Pro) - Microsoft Surface (Pro, Book, or Laptop line) - Lenovo (ThinkPad X1 Carbon or Extreme line) - Purism (Librem 15) Thankfully, I never really invested a lot of money in macOS-only apps. Maybe I'll donate to iTerm2 once, as a gesture of gratitude for the past years. But donating regularly as a patron just won't happen for me, I think.
- jitl 7y ago
  I thought like you and got a nice, well-made laptop and put Linux on it. I tried out the different desktop environments, looked at doing pure Wayland (not ready yet...), but ultimately I went back to macOS. Using Linux is still a death by a thousand tiny cuts. The last cut for me this time around was discovering my laptop would hard-shutdown at 15% battery to “protect the hardware”. No warning. No sleep. No hybrid sleep-then-hibernate. My research points to my partitioning choices (swap file instead of swap partition?) as the reason my device doesn’t hibernate. On Linux-for-desktop things like “slow performance” (of all the GUI apps) or showstopper bugs are par for the course - you have much more flexibility to route around them, but I found it much more frustrating and time consuming to try to make Ubuntu 18.04 enjoyable and productive than to just go back to Apple’s stuff.
tuananh 7y ago
does terminal app has copy on select now? such simple feat is so convenient...

81 points by troydavis 7y ago

I didn't know that there was a way to financially support iTerm2, an app I've used constantly for many years. iTerm2 is incredibly well executed and regularly updated. Turns out there are multiple ways to help, so I'm now a supporter.

pvg 7y ago
That's cool but I'm not so sure pledge drives for every which bit of software really belong on HN.
- troydavis 7y ago
  > I'm not so sure pledge drives for every which bit of software really belong on HN. That's a completely fair opinion, but in that case, don't upvote it. As https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html says, "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate." (I think iTerm2 is used by a far larger percentage of HN readers than most other free apps, especially those maintained by one individual, but I may be wrong about that. Maybe the meta-submission is this: if you spend a lot of time using a piece of free software - and enjoy it - and don't contribute code/docs/something to it, see whether there's a way to donate. Doesn't need to be iTerm2.)
  - stbullard 7y ago
    I for one would love to see HN do a quarterly/yearly FOSS project donation drive. The more we can do to encourage the development, maintenance, and improvement of tools we all use and sometimes take for granted, the better!
  - pvg 7y ago
    That's a completely fair opinion I asked the mods and was told fundraisers are generally offtopic. You can also find this in the hadith: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7500031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7500031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15315196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15315196

latchkey 7y ago

I used iTerm for many years because it was so much better than Terminal.app. At the suggestion of a coworker, I recently switched back to regular Terminal.app and it does everything I need, but with much less cpu/ram usage and 'feels' faster. This is one area where Apple has really done a good job in improving things. As much as I love this alternative solution, I'm mot sure I'd go back to iTerm2 unless I had a specific need that Terminal didn't address.

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
No tabs or split screen?
- izolate 7y ago
  Tmux is a much more robust solution for that
- ebg13 7y ago
  It definitely does have tabs.
- eddieroger 7y ago
  As of Catalina, it can do both of those things. It may have been able to do both before, but I haven't checked in a while.
- cocochanel 7y ago
  It can do both.
- latchkey 7y ago
  Tabs and split work just fine in my Terminal.app version (2.9.5). I'm not on Catalina yet.
fouc 7y ago
I think the big selling feature of iTerm was the tmux integration, but I've never gotten around to trying that out.

pdq 7y ago

Check out Alacritty, for a much faster and lower CPU usage terminal. The difference feels like gaming at 60fps vs 24fps. https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty

postpawl 7y ago
iTerm2 started doing some GPU rendering stuff in version 3.2 (https://iterm2.com/downloads/stable/iTerm2-3_2_0.changelog https://iterm2.com/downloads/stable/iTerm2-3_2_0.changelog). Maybe it's faster since you last used it?
- sudofail 7y ago
  I just double checked and Alacritty is indeed much faster still. This issue is probably the single most important feature for me in a terminal emulator, and unfortunately iTerm2 just doesn't cut it yet. On my 5k display, at full screen resolution, iTerm2 scrolls in a large vim buffer at max 40fps. Alacritty on the other hand is around 60fps. Not sure how to enable an FPS meter on the Terminal app, but it feels closer to 10-15fps. I used iTerm2 for years, and am still a Patron, but until GPU acceleration gets to 60fps at 5k resolution, I don't think I'll be switching back. It's still one of my favorite open source projects, and is only one of two that I currently pay for each month. So I sincerely recommend it to anyone who doesn't care too much about terminal performance.
new_realist 7y ago
Can Alacritty GPU-accelerate subpixel rendering like iTerm2?

Ecco 7y ago

"Please ship peaty single-malt Scotch to:" :-D

kentf 7y ago

I used it for years. Donated $20. Thank you :)

jmontano 7y ago
iTerm2 and DevonThink are the apps I miss the most from my old days as a OSX user.
youeseh 7y ago
Same here. Happy to pay! Thank you, iTerm2!

unixhero 7y ago

Would be awesome with more PPC builds! Yes PPC still lives! Great application.

etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
How exactly does PPC still live, esp for macOS?
- unixhero 7y ago
  Why, enthusiasts of course! - http://leopardrebirth.net/ http://leopardrebirth.net/ - https://macpowerpc.com/ https://macpowerpc.com/ - https://youtu.be/9SSsE1LcrUI https://youtu.be/9SSsE1LcrUI Iterm1 and iterm2 had builds for PPC. They were glorious. It would be great to see more updates.

n4s33r 7y ago

I've been using iTerm2 since what feels like forever, I especially value the tmux integration. I've met George Nachman once many years back when he was at Google - a truly humble and soft spoken person. Really appreciate the work he's done on iTerm2!

k_sze 7y ago

I wish I would want to support iTerm2. I have been using it for years. However, a few problems compound to make me hesitate staying on macOS at all. In particular: 1. I still haven't figured out how to solve the slow performance of vim in iTerm2, despite trying the solutions in multiple posts over the internet; vim in alacritty is also slow. 2. macOS Catalina sucks (32-bit killed off, and the show-stopper mail data loss bug); 3. The latest 16" MacBook Pro keyboard is better than the butterfly design of the last few years, but still not as good as the old scissor design; 4. I want nothing to do with the Touch Bar, except maybe Touch ID. All in all, I'll probably get my next mobile device from any one of the following manufacturers, and install Linux: - Dell (XPS 15") - System76 (Darter Pro) - Microsoft Surface (Pro, Book, or Laptop line) - Lenovo (ThinkPad X1 Carbon or Extreme line) - Purism (Librem 15) Thankfully, I never really invested a lot of money in macOS-only apps. Maybe I'll donate to iTerm2 once, as a gesture of gratitude for the past years. But donating regularly as a patron just won't happen for me, I think.

jitl 7y ago
I thought like you and got a nice, well-made laptop and put Linux on it. I tried out the different desktop environments, looked at doing pure Wayland (not ready yet...), but ultimately I went back to macOS. Using Linux is still a death by a thousand tiny cuts. The last cut for me this time around was discovering my laptop would hard-shutdown at 15% battery to “protect the hardware”. No warning. No sleep. No hybrid sleep-then-hibernate. My research points to my partitioning choices (swap file instead of swap partition?) as the reason my device doesn’t hibernate. On Linux-for-desktop things like “slow performance” (of all the GUI apps) or showstopper bugs are par for the course - you have much more flexibility to route around them, but I found it much more frustrating and time consuming to try to make Ubuntu 18.04 enjoyable and productive than to just go back to Apple’s stuff.

tuananh 7y ago

does terminal app has copy on select now? such simple feat is so convenient...