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>As strange as it may sound, the entire scientific community is not in fact conspiring to hide inconvenient right-wing truths from the common people, and if the
by allovernow 7y ago
>As strange as it may sound, the entire scientific community is not in fact conspiring to hide inconvenient right-wing truths from the common people, and if they do happen to overwhelmingly lean left that does not entail the existence of such a shadowy cabal.
A one sided, self reinforcing status quo does not require a conspiracy. All it takes is a majority of well meaning researchers to create a self-reinforcing situation wherin research along certain perfectly legitimate avenues is strongly discouraged through emergent social pressure. After spending a decade pursuing a PHD, it's hard to justify sticking your neck out when the consequences are potentially career ending, and the result is that in Western society we effectively shun any discussion of the influence of nature in favor exclusively of nurture.
>When evoluyionary biologists express skepticism towards claims made by behavioral "geneticists" or "evolutionary" psychologists, they are in fact pointing out the shoddy assumptions and flawed methodology, independently of whether the conclusions are morally abhorrent or not (they often are, but it's orthogonal to the point).
You don't think it strange to have an unquestionable default position where any study showing innate differences among populations is immediately dismissed as having poor methodology when the results are inconvenient? Is this not indicative of a strong institutional bias? Particularly when all of these same puzzle pieces are taken as legitimate when viewed individually in "safe" contexts? For example, no one argues against the existence of the warrior gene, that cat is out of the bag; but any whispers of different effects on genetic subpopulations and people bend over backwards trying to minimize the influence of such a factor on individual behavior [1] while totally ignoring the measurable consequences for distribution statistics.
Here's a legitimate potential consequence of ignoring such questions: if it turns out, hypothetically, that a particular subpopulation is more or less likely to be aggressive in tense situations, wouldn't that necessitate an adjustment in policing practices to ensure fairness in the justice system? What about optimization of treatment for psychological conditions like depression?
The assumption that human behavior is purely a product of nurture is not supported by a multitude of individual scientific facts, but institutional social bias is such that no reputable institution is willing to unify these factors, even when doing so is likely to produce more optimal outcomes for all of society. While well meaning, this is ultimately bad science potentially underpinning bad social policy.
- sjg007 7y agoThere are plenty of people who think GWAS are fundamentally flawed in terms of explanatory power. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(17)30629-3?_returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867417306293%3Fshowall%3Dtrue https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(17)30629-3?_re...
- throwawaytkgll 7y agoIt's one sided because one side is right and the other side is wrong. Studies showing "innate" differences (whatever "innate" means) are dismissed on methodolgy grounds because they do have methodology flaws. The overwhelming majority of population geneticists and evolutionary biologists dissmiss race science because it is flawed and has been repeatedly shown to be flawed since the 1920s. Techy people seem to trust the scientific consensus for plenty of issues, I don't see why suddenly an argument about "being fair to both sides" should be made just when it comes to the IQ of black people.
- allovernow 7y ago>The overwhelming majority of population geneticists and evolutionary biologists dissmiss race science because it is flawed and has been repeatedly shown to be flawed since the 1920s This is not the ideologically tainted race research of the 1920s. And this has consequences far beyond the somewhat arbitrary black/white divide. We have 100 years of scientific progress in evolutionary biology, genetics, psychology, and more to consider now. Dismissing any attempt to evaluate genetic influence on behavior as having racist motivations is dangerously myopic. You don't think it strange that there has been a dearth of research in this direction for some 3 decades now? Where is the definitive proof that humans are 100% products of their environment? The issue is far from settled and it is dishonest to pretend that it is. The potential for misuse of such data by racists is one very small part of the positive and negative consequences of inquiry into this area. And, again, the puzzle pieces are all around us and not controversial in part, they beg an investigation which objectively considers them in sum.
- throwawaytkgIl 7y ago